grass mixture advice

[mr grumpy]

Could do with a bit of advice on a mixture on what to put into a few fields to reseed. I fields are poor quality, we have cleared bits of it re drained alot of very wet ground, soil carries from lots of stone in some areas to patch of peat in others. The plan of re seeding will be to spray off then disc probably then spread grass seeds with spinner then roll, along with picking up a large quantity of stones. Direct drilling will be difficult due to uneven and steep parts of the fields.

I need a grazing lay that will be hardy and have a thick fence sward. I also do like the idea of a herbal lay, along with plantain and chicory, grazing will be done by cows sheep and lambs. Any advice greatly appreciated.

And lime will be sorted I think it will have to be 4ton in two doses.

 

[Gatehouse Farm]

@Great In Grass

 

[Kevtherev]

As above G in G is your man

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Just need some late heading Ryegrass bit if Timothy and some write clover, don't get drawn in by compacted mixes ane avoid early heading verities

 

[clemmo]

Soil type?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Mr complicated as entered the buildings

 

[milkloss]

Just need some late heading Ryegrass bit if Timothy and some write clover, don't get drawn in by compacted mixes ane avoid early heading verities

I see what you did there: write clover, drawn in....

 

[Great In Grass]

I'd go for a mixture which is both drought and water tolerant, something with some Tall Fescue in perhaps. The rest of the mix can be made up of PRG's, Cocksfoot (forget the horror stories the new ones are very good), Timothy and a kilo of white clover.

Tall fescue is winter active and Cocksfoot grows earlier in the spring so ideal for early turnout.

The above will be very persistent and produce a high protein sward for the beef & sheep. It will be ideal for early lambing followed by season long grazing also giving the opportunity of silage/hay.

Drop me a PM if your require details & cost.

 

[JD-Kid]

when do you need the feed and how are you going to graze it
rainfall etc and what classes of stock grazeing it
all good questions that can fine tune a mix to best match what you want to do ..

 

[M-J-G]

Just need some late heading Ryegrass bit if Timothy and some write clover, don't get drawn in by compacted mixes ane avoid early heading verities

What's a compacted mix?

 

[M-J-G]

I see what you did there: write clover, drawn in....

I think you may have made a very generous assumption there @milkloss

 

[Derrick Hughes]

It's gets trodden to death and come back laughing

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I'd go for a mixture which is both drought and water tolerant, something with some Tall Fescue in perhaps. The rest of the mix can be made up of PRG's, Cocksfoot (forget the horror stories the new ones are very good), Timothy and a kilo of white clover.

Tall fescue is winter active and Cocksfoot grows earlier in the spring so ideal for early turnout.

The above will be very persistent and produce a high protein sward for the beef & sheep. It will be ideal for early lambing followed by season long grazing also giving the opportunity of silage/hay.

Drop me a PM if your require details & cost.

No no no

 

[Great In Grass]

Okay @Forage Trader illuminate us with your wisdom what should the OP sow? Poor fertility as I read it and very wet ground and getting worse with some areas of peat. Also the OP tells us some parts of the fields are quite steep so I would expect these areas to dry out quickly. So you wouldn't include tall fescue or cocksfoot which would provide a highly palatable ley and early grass to graze?

 

[clemmo]

There's also a new cocks foot on the market that is softer leaved and therefore more palatable

 

[clemmo]

There's also a new cocks foot on the market that is softer leaved and therefore more palatable

 

[Great In Grass]

There's also a new cocks foot on the market that is softer leaved and therefore more palatable

Don't forget FT is using his experience from the 70's!

 

[Great In Grass]

No no no

 

[M-J-G]

A thousand likes!

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Told you so