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Nithsdale

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Livestock Farmer
No doubt my landlords will only hear the +£20 bit even though they don't put on any fertiliser!


Same here.

Rent increases year on year, whilst ignoring the ground needs limed, there's fences starting to need repaired (rotten posts) and there's a burst drain in the middle of the 'cropping' field meaning it can only be grazed and 1/2ac is a boggy waste...
 
heard some grazing marshes made £170/ac:eek:

They did @spin cycle but it is not farmers underwriting the cost for marshes but the charities. One or two charities are taking thousands of acres out of production by offering £100-140 an acre and that is then squeezing the demand for livestock grazing land (i.e. animals that will be eaten or bred from) and farmers are having to pay over the odds as there are fewer acres on offer. Obviously the charities and their supporters aim is to stop the public eating meat and they seem to have realised that they can further their cause by outbidding for the grazing.

My personal gripe is that non farming landowners are claiming SFP and then renting land to a charity that is not involved in food production.
 
Not just me then! I hate to turn land down when it's on my own doorstep but there comes a point when it's more hassle than its worth.

Same here.

Rent increases year on year, whilst ignoring the ground needs limed, there's fences starting to need repaired (rotten posts) and there's a burst drain in the middle of the 'cropping' field meaning it can only be grazed and 1/2ac is a boggy waste...
 
They did @spin cycle but it is not farmers underwriting the cost for marshes but the charities. One or two charities are taking thousands of acres out of production by offering £100-140 an acre and that is then squeezing the demand for livestock grazing land (i.e. animals that will be eaten or bred from) and farmers are having to pay over the odds as there are fewer acres on offer. Obviously the charities and their supporters aim is to stop the public eating meat and they seem to have realised that they can further their cause by outbidding for the grazing.

My personal gripe is that non farming landowners are claiming SFP and then renting land to a charity that is not involved in food production.

Seriously? Are we talking vegan type charities or just the badger huggers? They'll be in for a shock when they realise just how much land they're going to have to rent to stop meat production.
 
Seriously? Are we talking vegan type charities or just the badger huggers? They'll be in for a shock when they realise just how much land they're going to have to rent to stop meat production.

I grabbed this of one of our local charities to give you a taste of their stance. I took their name out though!

We have always known that one of the main reasons animals are left to suffer in factory farms is because people have little or no idea about the immense cruelty involved in their food production. Although most of our rescued animals have been saved from the farming industry, @@@@@ is also home to nearly 2000 horses, ponies, donkeys and mules.
 

Nithsdale

Member
Livestock Farmer
Not just me then! I hate to turn land down when it's on my own doorstep but there comes a point when it's more hassle than its worth.
No, you are definitely not alone!

The ground we take marches with us and there's little hassle otherwise, so I keep taking it (I'v also upped numbers to the point I'd struggle without it). But just a typical land agent screwing everyone to line their own pocket
 

Pigken

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Location
Co. Durham
@had e nuff been reliable informed(from someone who was there) average at Croxdale was seemingly £140 acre with top price of £200, but said could have gone a lot further if more grass. Is this in line with ewes and lambs averaging £48 a life through ring yesterday?
 

spin cycle

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Location
north norfolk
They did @spin cycle but it is not farmers underwriting the cost for marshes but the charities. One or two charities are taking thousands of acres out of production by offering £100-140 an acre and that is then squeezing the demand for livestock grazing land (i.e. animals that will be eaten or bred from) and farmers are having to pay over the odds as there are fewer acres on offer. Obviously the charities and their supporters aim is to stop the public eating meat and they seem to have realised that they can further their cause by outbidding for the grazing.

My personal gripe is that non farming landowners are claiming SFP and then renting land to a charity that is not involved in food production.

ah i see ...horse charities:rolleyes:......mind you there must be under bidders...charities to:scratchhead:

i must admit i have sympathy with your 'gripe':)
 
People are desperate.

I have spare grass at home as thanks to the RPA underpaying (but naturally Ill count as paid for their statistics) Ive had to sell off ewes over winter.

I was expecting to let the good Ley ground at 50p/ewe+ lambs and the PP at 30p/ per week but Have had flat out offers of £1+ and one guy offering £100/ac for the 4 months on offer.

ALL of them were desperate, all coming from further up the valleys and some from 25-30 miles away, all without grass at home and forage, and some of the sheep look pretty poor, living on what little they can find grazing and concentrate. it will return to normal soon enough when grass grows at home - A ewe breaking even on away grazing is better than a starved ewe going into summer with stunted lambs and needing TLC to get reading for next tupping.
 

Poorbuthappy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
People are desperate.

I have spare grass at home as thanks to the RPA underpaying (but naturally Ill count as paid for their statistics) Ive had to sell off ewes over winter.

I was expecting to let the good Ley ground at 50p/ewe+ lambs and the PP at 30p/ per week but Have had flat out offers of £1+ and one guy offering £100/ac for the 4 months on offer.

ALL of them were desperate, all coming from further up the valleys and some from 25-30 miles away, all without grass at home and forage, and some of the sheep look pretty poor, living on what little they can find grazing and concentrate. it will return to normal soon enough when grass grows at home - A ewe breaking even on away grazing is better than a starved ewe going into summer with stunted lambs and needing TLC to get reading for next tupping.
Or better to do as you did and sell some sheep?
 

Nithsdale

Member
Livestock Farmer
They probably will. But Corbyn won't be PM.

If Labour do win it will be testament to the absolute stunning incompetence of the May government.


Well... he is the leader, and people were voting for him last time. So I wouldn't be confident of saying he won't be PM.

May is no PM and the Tories have fecked up quicker than ever this time, Labour win next election is almost guaranteed.
 
I grabbed this of one of our local charities to give you a taste of their stance. I took their name out though!

We have always known that one of the main reasons animals are left to suffer in factory farms is because people have little or no idea about the immense cruelty involved in their food production. Although most of our rescued animals have been saved from the farming industry, @@@@@ is also home to nearly 2000 horses, ponies, donkeys and mules.

That must be a serious pain in the arse when your working hard to make a genuine living from the land. People have become so far removed from agriculture that they are a lot easier to convince that cruelty is normal in animal production. If animals are in its intensive and if they're out the poor things must be cold!
 

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