Grass quality and lambs

[Bones]

Might be worth trying rotational grazing next spring,

 

[tepapa]

Texel ram on the Suffolk Cheviot ewes usually be a good match and have been in past but somethings goijg on. For a twin ewe lambs to gain no weight what so ever in 6 weeks and still look good and strong and fully healthy

The answer is in your opening post.
Cobalt very low.
Iodine very low
Molybdenum high so
Copper antagonist very high.


I'm in the same position. I've got results on a piece of paper but not answers. Very frustrating.

 

[will6910]

Were the charollais lambs out of the ewe lambs generally better lambs than the texels out of the ewes?

Not really just happened to be had one really good lamb out of Charolais

 

[will6910]

Might be worth trying rotational grazing next spring,

I am rotating grazing. Fields spilt up with electric fence and moved from paddock to paddock

 

[will6910]

Don't know if anyone has mentioned it but are sure your scales right? I know it sounds obvious but . . . You never know!

Use a full lick bucket to set scales each time I weigh lambs [emoji1303]

 

[neilo]

The answer is in your opening post.
Cobalt very low.
Iodine very low
Molybdenum high so
Copper antagonist very high.


I'm in the same position. I've got results on a piece of paper but not answers. Very frustrating.

^this. My money is still on a TE deficiency/lockup..

 

[will6910]

What do I do next to try find out ?

 

[ShooTa]

in order - forage test - bloods from at least 10% - and soils.

 

[will6910]

Have had grass samples and soil samples all done

 

[Razor8]

One drench will unlikely Cure your problem . You should do them weekly for a month and see if they improve

how many times have you mineral drenched and how much did you give

 

[will6910]

One drench will unlikely Cure your problem . You should do them weekly for a month and see if they improve

how many times have you mineral drenched and how much did you give

Been drenching them since first worm dose with mineral dose every 2 weeks

 

[dunk999]

Been drenching them since first worm dose with mineral dose every 2 weeks

How do any of your neighbours sheep perform in relation to you're own? Do they run the same breed or similar? Sometimes the land will dictate the growth rates and reading to much farmers weekly can lead to high expectations.

 

[neilo]

Been drenching them since first worm dose with mineral dose every 2 weeks

Not with copper though. That level of moly will give you almost total lockup ime.

 

[will6910]

Not with copper though. That level of moly will give you almost total lockup ime.

Only started with the copper yeah

 

[will6910]

How do any of your neighbours sheep perform in relation to you're own? Do they run the same breed or similar? Sometimes the land will dictate the growth rates and reading to much farmers weekly can lead to high expectations.

Only have the one neighbour that had sheep rest either beef or milk. The sheep sheep to do well from what I can see

 

[Razor8]

So have many drenches have you given them containing copper? What drench and how much each time?

 

[will6910]

Had 2 doses of the copper added drench. It’s fane valley home brand stuff. Store lambs get 7ml and weaned lambs get 3ml apparently so I spilt the difference and gave all 5ml

 

[Kiwi Pete]

I found texels go 'storey' around now and those weights then kick on later on

Yes!
Same here, almost like they gather themselves "for one last push" despite being swimming in grub.

Huge number of tex cross stores available down here usually, once you know that they just need time they represent bloody good buying at times

 

[MDL POWERUP]

Yes!
Same here, almost like they gather themselves "for one last push" despite being swimming in grub.

Huge number of tex cross stores available down here usually, once you know that they just need time they represent bloody good buying at times

I found its when the grass quality starts to drop off they struggle then kick on later on in the year. Like a bit of texel in commercial ewes so lambs have nice heeds for the auction...

 

[will6910]

I found its when the grass quality starts to drop off they struggle then kick on later on in the year. Like a bit of texel in commercial ewes so lambs have nice heeds for the auction...

Never really had issue in past with that. For years I had Suffolky and texel crosses and used texel rams and odd Charolais ram. When started to notice a issue with same rams and breeds and fields. Out of maybe 240 lambs I sold 10 or 12 in early September as stores. Then next year that jumped to maybe 40 lambs as stores right up to one year I sold 4 fat lambs and rest all stores. Nothing changed no breeds or anything . Did add some lleyns for while but seen it didn’t improve