Grass reseed

Kevtherev

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Location
Welshpool Powys
Yes sorry that's what I was asking, into established grass.

Trying to work out the best min till method of grass establishment.

At the moment we're going Grass - cereal - grass, so it's nice and easy to get the second grass into the cereal stubble, I think I'll buy a powerharrow for that (discing at the moment).

Steep fields are a problem though and may suit establishing a brassica between grass crops better. As long as a powerharrow/accord can cope with putting brassicas into established grass.
Combi drilling grass after a cereal check drilling depth is not too deep plus single drilling you get weed ingress in the gaps.
Better to drill it twice over diamond pattern if possible.
Drilling with a combi into old grass I’d be concerned about the drill dragging old grass into rucks.
Usually better broadcast then rolled in.
 
Location
Ceredigion
Like I said before the biggest Couse if reseed fail by a mile is the weather , I do all sorts to suit field , spray Rotorspike once or twice then broadcast seed ,works well , plough and power Harrow Broadcast works well but expensive and a lot of man hours , Spray Direct Drill, works well , nothing to choose , suppose if I had to choose one, would be the direct drill
 

bluebell

Member
with the cost of everything going up so much, if down here in the getting dryer every year south? a grass reseed has to be done, the autumn, late summer is the only time to get a good result?
 
Location
Ceredigion
with the cost of everything going up so much, if down here in the getting dryer every year south? a grass reseed has to be done, the autumn, late summer is the only time to get a good result?
How late though , I find September is just as risky as spring seeding up here , also chickweed is becoming a massive problem in Autumn Reseeds from what I've seen , easy to spray out but a lot of sprays take out Clover , and if the Autumn turns wet it's not easy to get spray on
 

crashbox

Member
Livestock Farmer
How late though , I find September is just as risky as spring seeding up here , also chickweed is becoming a massive problem in Autumn Reseeds from what I've seen , easy to spray out but a lot of sprays take out Clover , and if the Autumn turns wet it's not easy to get spray on
Clean the seed bed with a break crop is best bet, but I have established good herbal leys grass to grass.
You are guaranteed rain in Oct, same cannot be said for April/May/June/July.
 
Location
Ceredigion
Clean the seed bed with a break crop is best bet, but I have established good herbal leys grass to grass.
You are guaranteed rain in Oct, same cannot be said for April/May/June/July.
Probl em is here when it starts raining in October it never stops, seeds get waterlogged and cold , we rarely get problem s with spring reseed , right on the coast here and rain hits us
 

crashbox

Member
Livestock Farmer
Probl em is here when it starts raining in October it never stops, seeds get waterlogged and cold , we rarely get problem s with spring reseed , right on the coast here and rain hits us
Yes West Wales is a different ball game and not what I would refer to as the "dry South".
 
Location
Ceredigion
Out to beat the rain , Italian and Vetch going in
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som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
Yes sorry that's what I was asking, into established grass.

Trying to work out the best min till method of grass establishment.

At the moment we're going Grass - cereal - grass, so it's nice and easy to get the second grass into the cereal stubble, I think I'll buy a powerharrow for that (discing at the moment).

Steep fields are a problem though and may suit establishing a brassica between grass crops better. As long as a powerharrow/accord can cope with putting brassicas into established grass.
we have been using a heavy duty tine machine, instead of ploughing, might have to buy one, but it does a good job, grass sprayed off, then a quick p/h to level off, roll drill roll. Even done our maize this year. The benefits of not ploughing, is you don't kill 50% of the worms, which do a very important function.
D/D, is the other way, buggered if r-up is banned though, even dd some barley, this spring, not pretty, but its there, next time will be better. Drill man, said he had dd some maize, but wouldn't say where.
 
Location
Ceredigion
we have been using a heavy duty tine machine, instead of ploughing, might have to buy one, but it does a good job, grass sprayed off, then a quick p/h to level off, roll drill roll. Even done our maize this year. The benefits of not ploughing, is you don't kill 50% of the worms, which do a very important function.
D/D, is the other way, buggered if r-up is banned though, even dd some barley, this spring, not pretty, but its there, next time will be better. Drill man, said he had dd some maize, but wouldn't say where.
I've got two Rotospikes, what I can't direct drill normally gets a pass with those
 

som farmer

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
l think we will all have to look at 'non ploughing' methods, ploughing will still have a place, but not as a 'norm'.
though that might happen for environmental reasons, it will improve soil structure, it is estimated that 50% of worms are killed by ploughing, plus the other soil fauna/flora, it is those that lead to better soils, which build fertility, but more importantly, create the right conditions, to ensure clovers produce the maximum N. The spin off, they will sequestrate more carbon, which may produce a 'sellable' surplus, carbon credits.
Not really sure why min-til, or dd, never achieved the use/popularity, that other countries have, its the norm, in many countries.
 

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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