Grass reseed

[choochter]

again, that sounds very expensive

 

[ollie989898]

again, that sounds very expensive

But it works. Only one thing more expensive than a grass reseed and that's a fudged up grass reseed.

Grass seed was or is literally the most expensive seed I used to sell.

 

[Kevtherev]

Yes sorry that's what I was asking, into established grass.

Trying to work out the best min till method of grass establishment.

At the moment we're going Grass - cereal - grass, so it's nice and easy to get the second grass into the cereal stubble, I think I'll buy a powerharrow for that (discing at the moment).

Steep fields are a problem though and may suit establishing a brassica between grass crops better. As long as a powerharrow/accord can cope with putting brassicas into established grass.

Combi drilling grass after a cereal check drilling depth is not too deep plus single drilling you get weed ingress in the gaps.
Better to drill it twice over diamond pattern if possible.
Drilling with a combi into old grass I’d be concerned about the drill dragging old grass into rucks.
Usually better broadcast then rolled in.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Like I said before the biggest Couse if reseed fail by a mile is the weather , I do all sorts to suit field , spray Rotorspike once or twice then broadcast seed ,works well , plough and power Harrow Broadcast works well but expensive and a lot of man hours , Spray Direct Drill, works well , nothing to choose , suppose if I had to choose one, would be the direct drill

 

[Zebbedee]

Yes but my point is if you shallow power Harrow you can't use a tine harrow to apply the seed you will have to broadcast it on top , or the tine harrow will drag the loose turf and it the seed with it , in my experience that is

Ahh right I see where your going with that

 

[bluebell]

with the cost of everything going up so much, if down here in the getting dryer every year south? a grass reseed has to be done, the autumn, late summer is the only time to get a good result?

 

[crashbox]

with the cost of everything going up so much, if down here in the getting dryer every year south? a grass reseed has to be done, the autumn, late summer is the only time to get a good result?

Yes, we have been of this view for years.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

with the cost of everything going up so much, if down here in the getting dryer every year south? a grass reseed has to be done, the autumn, late summer is the only time to get a good result?

How late though , I find September is just as risky as spring seeding up here , also chickweed is becoming a massive problem in Autumn Reseeds from what I've seen , easy to spray out but a lot of sprays take out Clover , and if the Autumn turns wet it's not easy to get spray on

 

[crashbox]

How late though , I find September is just as risky as spring seeding up here , also chickweed is becoming a massive problem in Autumn Reseeds from what I've seen , easy to spray out but a lot of sprays take out Clover , and if the Autumn turns wet it's not easy to get spray on

Clean the seed bed with a break crop is best bet, but I have established good herbal leys grass to grass.
You are guaranteed rain in Oct, same cannot be said for April/May/June/July.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Clean the seed bed with a break crop is best bet, but I have established good herbal leys grass to grass.
You are guaranteed rain in Oct, same cannot be said for April/May/June/July.

Probl em is here when it starts raining in October it never stops, seeds get waterlogged and cold , we rarely get problem s with spring reseed , right on the coast here and rain hits us

 

[crashbox]

Probl em is here when it starts raining in October it never stops, seeds get waterlogged and cold , we rarely get problem s with spring reseed , right on the coast here and rain hits us

Yes West Wales is a different ball game and not what I would refer to as the "dry South".

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Yes West Wales is a different ball game and not what I would refer to as the "dry South".

No , we have some dry banks around here that face the sun that we do dry ground mixes for but a different world this end

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Out to beat the rain , Italian and Vetch going in

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Finally got the reseeding finished today , been a hard slog, weeks holiday due I think

 

[serf]

Finally got the reseeding finished today , been a hard slog, weeks holiday due I think
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Don't you prefer grass reseeding in the backend or are you always guaranteed H2o where you are .

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Don't you prefer grass reseeding in the backend or are you always guaranteed H2o where you are .

Not had had an issue so far , seem to get plagued with Chickweed in backend reseeds

 

[serf]

Not had had an issue so far , seem to get plagued with Chickweed in backend reseeds

It's just hellish round midlands for risking such things at min of any quantity, safestbet is later on , always been the case round here

 

[som farmer]

Yes sorry that's what I was asking, into established grass.

Trying to work out the best min till method of grass establishment.

At the moment we're going Grass - cereal - grass, so it's nice and easy to get the second grass into the cereal stubble, I think I'll buy a powerharrow for that (discing at the moment).

Steep fields are a problem though and may suit establishing a brassica between grass crops better. As long as a powerharrow/accord can cope with putting brassicas into established grass.

we have been using a heavy duty tine machine, instead of ploughing, might have to buy one, but it does a good job, grass sprayed off, then a quick p/h to level off, roll drill roll. Even done our maize this year. The benefits of not ploughing, is you don't kill 50% of the worms, which do a very important function.
D/D, is the other way, buggered if r-up is banned though, even dd some barley, this spring, not pretty, but its there, next time will be better. Drill man, said he had dd some maize, but wouldn't say where.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

we have been using a heavy duty tine machine, instead of ploughing, might have to buy one, but it does a good job, grass sprayed off, then a quick p/h to level off, roll drill roll. Even done our maize this year. The benefits of not ploughing, is you don't kill 50% of the worms, which do a very important function.
D/D, is the other way, buggered if r-up is banned though, even dd some barley, this spring, not pretty, but its there, next time will be better. Drill man, said he had dd some maize, but wouldn't say where.

I've got two Rotospikes, what I can't direct drill normally gets a pass with those

 

[som farmer]

l think we will all have to look at 'non ploughing' methods, ploughing will still have a place, but not as a 'norm'.
though that might happen for environmental reasons, it will improve soil structure, it is estimated that 50% of worms are killed by ploughing, plus the other soil fauna/flora, it is those that lead to better soils, which build fertility, but more importantly, create the right conditions, to ensure clovers produce the maximum N. The spin off, they will sequestrate more carbon, which may produce a 'sellable' surplus, carbon credits.
Not really sure why min-til, or dd, never achieved the use/popularity, that other countries have, its the norm, in many countries.