Grass seed

[Fendt65]

I know there was a drought last year and we just as well chuck in brexit but just looked at the price of grass seed and was a little surprised

 

[bobk]

I know there was a drought last year and we just as well chuck in brexit but just looked at the price of grass seed and was a little surprised

They take the pi....

However , don't worry about the price get the right mix , I got done over last year . square pegs in round holes .

 

[som farmer]

as a dry farm, we put in an all singing festoloium drought resistant mix, last spring, not a good take, but good for the weather, amazing, kept going, only real green field locally, started this year well, 2 grazes, 1 good cut, and nothing, needs a total reseed, mean't to last 4 yrs.
is this the way grass seeds are going,? they will only produce their potential, if every thing is 'right' ?
seriously thinking about some cocksfoot, timothy and some proven prg's, whils't the niab listed grasses are mean't to be better, if they don't perform in adverse conditions, they are no good to me

 

[Bob]

Has price increased?

 

[Dog Bowl]

as a dry farm, we put in an all singing festoloium drought resistant mix, last spring, not a good take, but good for the weather, amazing, kept going, only real green field locally, started this year well, 2 grazes, 1 good cut, and nothing, needs a total reseed, mean't to last 4 yrs.
is this the way grass seeds are going,? they will only produce their potential, if every thing is 'right' ?
seriously thinking about some cocksfoot, timothy and some proven prg's, whils't the niab listed grasses are mean't to be better, if they don't perform in adverse conditions, they are no good to me

I have suffered EXACTLY the same symptoms as you. Mine will be plastered with FYM and put into wheat. Very disappointed with the ley.

My most consistent, persistent and best performing leys are the 3 to 4 year PRG and white clover leys. Think I'll stick to what i know in future l.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

It's been dear for a long time , what mix you looking for

 

[Fendt65]

Ryegrass to stitch into 60 acres that was hit hard in last years drought and 20/30 acres of red clover ryegrass new leys .i know there’s another thread on here about the cost of reseeding but it does make you question what we’re doing

 

[Jonny_2]

I have suffered EXACTLY the same symptoms as you. Mine will be plastered with FYM and put into wheat. Very disappointed with the ley.

My most consistent, persistent and best performing leys are the 3 to 4 year PRG and white clover leys. Think I'll stick to what i know in future l.

Recently got told by somebody high up in a grass breeding company that festulolium varieties either takes 90% towards Italian ryegrass or 90% tall fescue. Either get short term yield or persistency so might as well go with good Italian varieties or tall fescue for what you pay

 

[deleted user 837354]

I don't know what you chaps are complaining about ref festuloliums, I sold tonnes of these varieties, a lot of them are still there doing the business today, I drive by fields I know have them in. What mixtures have you put in and on what dirt and more importantly, what are you using them for?

There are two kinds of festulolium hybrids and like the other big tetraploids, if you abuse them they don't like it.

 

[Yale]

Let’s get back to basics,get your ph and nutrients right before throwing good money after bad with expensive seed.

 

[NewlandFarmServices]

Grass seed increase due to dry year last harvest as like everything yields down and all uk grown seed suffered. Guess europe did to for the imported seeds. I was paying around £35/acre bag last year and now £55-60.

 

[deleted user 837354]

Grass seed increase due to dry year last harvest as like everything yields down and all uk grown seed suffered. Guess europe did to for the imported seeds. I was paying around £35/acre bag last year and now £55-60.

If you were paying £35/acre for grass seed then your weight must be very low or your mixture particularly crap.

 

[NewlandFarmServices]

If you were paying £35/acre for grass seed then your weight must be very low or your mixture particularly crap.

It was horse paddock seed 14kg acre.

 

[kill]

as a dry farm, we put in an all singing festoloium drought resistant mix, last spring, not a good take, but good for the weather, amazing, kept going, only real green field locally, started this year well, 2 grazes, 1 good cut, and nothing, needs a total reseed, mean't to last 4 yrs.
is this the way grass seeds are going,? they will only produce their potential, if every thing is 'right' ?
seriously thinking about some cocksfoot, timothy and some proven prg's, whils't the niab listed grasses are mean't to be better, if they don't perform in adverse conditions, they are no good to me

How low did you mow it as some grasses just hate being shaved into dirt. Festoloiums love slurry as spread mine after mowing and they just jump away again

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Someone is making some money when you think its gross over £2000 acre. Would the farmer get half that or more

 

[deleted user 837354]

It was horse paddock seed 14kg acre.

35 quid an acre is italian ryegrass money. Smaller seeded grasses are always more expensive because their seed yield is lower. I have personally charged 55-60 per acre for good grass mixtures using premium known varieties from the national list. How the heck someone would do that for 35 quid I have no idea.

 

[deleted user 837354]

Let’s get back to basics,get your ph and nutrients right before throwing good money after bad with expensive seed.

Unless those are right you may as well throw the grass seed in the river.

 

[NewlandFarmServices]

35 quid an acre is italian ryegrass money. Smaller seeded grasses are always more expensive because their seed yield is lower. I have personally charged 55-60 per acre for good grass mixtures using premium known varieties from the national list. How the heck someone would do that for 35 quid I have no idea.

I get at trade price as I no the right people. It had mix of ryegrass, Timothy and fescue in. But I can't get it this cheap anymore as they saying more like £55.

 

[jondear]

as a dry farm, we put in an all singing festoloium drought resistant mix, last spring, not a good take, but good for the weather, amazing, kept going, only real green field locally, started this year well, 2 grazes, 1 good cut, and nothing, needs a total reseed, mean't to last 4 yrs.
is this the way grass seeds are going,? they will only produce their potential, if every thing is 'right' ?
seriously thinking about some cocksfoot, timothy and some proven prg's, whils't the niab listed grasses are mean't to be better, if they don't perform in adverse conditions, they are no good to me

Did lots of slot seeding with festolioum last autumn tool well good first cut and bigger all since it's not that drought tolerant !well not here!I will be putting in cocksfoot and Timothy this year with maybe some chickory!and red clover.

 

[som farmer]

How low did you mow it as some grasses just hate being shaved into dirt. Festoloiums love slurry as spread mine after mowing and they just jump away again

cut 4-6ins, covered in watery slurry within 7 days, and 34.5 n at 125kg/ha, we try and do the right thing !!