Grass situation for all

In the pit

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembrokeshire
Agrinet here says average 6.06 tonnes hectare with a lot over 8 tonnes
Growth here 40 down from 50 last week and plenty grass to go at
Did cut fert use down but kept slurry going on
 

hendrebc

Member
Livestock Farmer
My average is 1.5tonne/ha for 166 days but that's not the whole picture a lot of my fields have been set stocked until a 6 weeks after lambing so when you put it in as part grazed so it shows its set stocked it doesn't register any growth. The ones that have been rotated round are between 2t and 4.5t. Mostly 2-3t though the 4.5t one is a reseed from last year that I kept measuring till I knew for definite that I was going to silage it so I measured it at 4500kg once and is not at 1500.
The set stocked ones All say they are below 1t total but thats rubbish as a lot of stock have been parked over them till the lambs were old enough to mob up and moved. Back rotating now though so it will give a clearer picture. When I used farmax that said I grew 7.5t a year first year and 8t the next. Don't use it now though.
 

hendrebc

Member
Livestock Farmer
Yes part grazed on Agrinet is awkward and so is a measure where the grass has a lower cover , and Agrinet won’t let you enter it
If I get a covet that is lower than it was without being grazed I put it in as whatever it was the last time so it shows as 0 growth. Not sure if it's the right way to do it but if grass has gone backwards in a frost or a dry spell the dry matter should still be there it's just less bulky but thr grass is higher dm. That's how I work it anyway it usually feeds out near enough for beef cattle and sheep.
 

DanM

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Livestock Farmer
Location
West Country
My average is 1.5tonne/ha for 166 days but that's not the whole picture a lot of my fields have been set stocked until a 6 weeks after lambing so when you put it in as part grazed so it shows its set stocked it doesn't register any growth. The ones that have been rotated round are between 2t and 4.5t. Mostly 2-3t though the 4.5t one is a reseed from last year that I kept measuring till I knew for definite that I was going to silage it so I measured it at 4500kg once and is not at 1500.
The set stocked ones All say they are below 1t total but thats rubbish as a lot of stock have been parked over them till the lambs were old enough to mob up and moved. Back rotating now though so it will give a clearer picture. When I used farmax that said I grew 7.5t a year first year and 8t the next. Don't use it now though.
I’m wondering why your waiting till 6wks post lambing till you mob up and rotate?
 

upnortheast

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Northumberland
With all the financial & political pressure to cut down on fert, it is very noticable driving round the the fields that are coping best with the dry weather are the ones that have been fed.
We have been using it for all these years because it is very effective at encouraging growth
 

In the pit

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembrokeshire
With all the financial & political pressure to cut down on fert, it is very noticable driving round the the fields that are coping best with the dry weather are the ones that have been fed.
We have been using it for all these years because it is very effective at encouraging growth
You can only cut fertiliser so much before you reduce the amount your growing , which is okay if you’ve reduced numbers but not so good if your numbers are the same
 
2nd cut of a GS4 herbal ley sown last autumn. Grazed with sheep until March then shut out to stop them hammering the herbs in it. First cut was 6 weeks ago.

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The plan was to rotationally graze with cattle but TB has put paid to that plan so will buy a ruck of store/ewe lambs instead. Hopefully get cattle back into the system next year. Seems to have handled the dry spring/summer well so far.
 

balerman

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Location
N Devon
It is as dry as its ever been here,dairy next door took a good first cut 25th may,70 units N back on and its hardly moved since,would be about 1t acre at the moment.That is heavy clay farm too.
 

serf

Member
Location
warwickshire
It is as dry as its ever been here,dairy next door took a good first cut 25th may,70 units N back on and its hardly moved since,would be about 1t acre at the moment.That is heavy clay farm too.

It's absolutely crap this weather , we haven't had the proper spring flush yet ,
recon there will be masses of grass in back end when the rain comes if the temp stays mild
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
It's absolutely crap this weather , we haven't had the proper spring flush yet ,
recon there will be masses of grass in back end when the rain comes if the temp stays mild
We had that a few years back, no grass all summer and feeding silage , yet couldnt get calves interested in the creep come september because of the flush of autumn grass
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Stuff all. Second cut was crap. A lot shot to seedheads in the 30+ degree heat. I'd debate at current fert prices if a third cut was worth doing. Especially as rainfall since 1st Feb is barely over 60mm. Hot next week. Really showing up the limits of a ryegrass ley as my brother's gs4 looks fine.
 

Jerry

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Devon
2nd cut of a GS4 herbal ley sown last autumn. Grazed with sheep until March then shut out to stop them hammering the herbs in it. First cut was 6 weeks ago.

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The plan was to rotationally graze with cattle but TB has put paid to that plan so will buy a ruck of store/ewe lambs instead. Hopefully get cattle back into the system next year. Seems to have handled the dry spring/summer well so far.

You’ve done better than me. Took a cut of mine 6 weeks ago. Was grazed till end of march prior to that.

Put some lambs back in it this evening.

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At least the cut I got was worth it.

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Did about 10 bales to acre
 

jack6480

Member
Location
Staffs
2nd cut of a GS4 herbal ley sown last autumn. Grazed with sheep until March then shut out to stop them hammering the herbs in it. First cut was 6 weeks ago.

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The plan was to rotationally graze with cattle but TB has put paid to that plan so will buy a ruck of store/ewe lambs instead. Hopefully get cattle back into the system next year. Seems to have handled the dry spring/summer well so far.
Any fert on that?
 

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