Grassland starts

[Fergie Ploughman]

....and one of the worst match foods (despite its bank balance) is the Cheshire! Professional caterers do the lunches for all the important people, bit like Brailsford do, and all the ploughman get plastic sandwiches, crisps, etc in a brown bag to eat wherever you can find a seat.... Plus you generally have to queue to get on the ground and then queue to get off!

Agree, barugh is cracking, I'm trying to think what the forest match food is now, even though I go every year! Staffs district matches are all pretty good, lots of nice ploughman's lunches......and all that cheese you can eat at burton!

I hope nobody gets the impression I choose my matches by the meals on offer!!!!

I'll have to correct this now....Cheshire is up there with the best for food! Proper sit down meal and cakes to die for....

 

[Howard150]

Might just need a couple of attempts to get to know where to run. Make sure the outside of the rear wheel runs up to the second furr of the first run. Don’t forget the plough is wound fairly well up on the front so naturally hangs over toward the work. On strong land one of the hardest things to achieve is not to push the single furr back into the hole with the first furr of the second run, putting a bend into what might well have been straight work. The hardest thing to get your head round is the depth you need to plough at. Bit of practice and it’s one of the easiest ways to set a rig.

 

[Fergie Ploughman]

Trouble is, we very rarely get turf for a practice! What would I need between the two furrow walls width wise, I was assuming 26/28"? Also, I've heard people use scratch shares, assume I could just stick something like a YL57 on my plough for the chip, that's about the narrowest share I have! Presume you just need to skim a couple of inches out? Does the chip need to be all soil in the middle, ie no grass showing through (like the first pic)?

 

[Howard150]

If the disc is tight on the back body first run there will be no grass in the crown. Similarly lower the front disc and nip it op to do the same on the second run. The back disc on the second run needs to be set where you intend to plough the plot. I never bothered changing shares.

 

[MrNoo]

Surely it doesn't matter as you'll be running on both chips anyway with the back wheel? Am I also right in thinking you can "manhandle" the chips slices after doing them, to straighten it up if needed, like the Hi cut boys do?
I have been messing around with various chip widths for the last season or two, was around 28" but have found 26" seems much better on my 10" but did cock it up the other day and it was what I though was way too narrow but it sat together really nicely.
I also saw someone on the chip run (double opening) just drag the plough up the furrow, the share was out of work, the rear board tail pushed all the turned out soil over into the split, then put his first proper run as normal, then ran the rear wheel up against the first two and had clean ground and popped the opposing 2 against it. Went together a treat but when is a chip not a chip?? Do you have to turn the soil on the chip? Or can you just use the board tail and a long top link to sweep the turned out soil into the split?? I asked a very good retired trailed ploughman who also watched, he said that was how he always did it.

 

[Fergie Ploughman]

Surely it doesn't matter as you'll be running on both chips anyway with the back wheel? Am I also right in thinking you can "manhandle" the chips slices after doing them, to straighten it up if needed, like the Hi cut boys do?
I have been messing around with various chip widths for the last season or two, was around 28" but have found 26" seems much better on my 10" but did cock it up the other day and it was what I though was way too narrow but it sat together really nicely.
I also saw someone on the chip run (double opening) just drag the plough up the furrow, the share was out of work, the rear board tail pushed all the turned out soil over into the split, then put his first proper run as normal, then ran the rear wheel up against the first two and had clean ground and popped the opposing 2 against it. Went together a treat but when is a chip not a chip?? Do you have to turn the soil on the chip? Or can you just use the board tail and a long top link to sweep the turned out soil into the split?? I asked a very good retired trailed ploughman who also watched, he said that was how he always did it.

When I do my first run after the split I only just skim the surface with my rear body, I try and get it so I can crush it on the next run with the first 2 cop furrows. To be honest, it feels like a frickin' gamble every time I do a cop, I wish I could just bang the two together like a few others can. They seem to be better this year! On stubble I tend to be around 26" for my 10" set up...

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

Remember, furrow width has nothing to do with the width of the chip.
It all depends how much push you have on the boards to allow the tractor wheel down the furrow bottom, I,m Ploughing 8" in high cut, but 28" on scratches or chip for you

 

[Fergie Ploughman]

Remember, furrow width has nothing to do with the width of the chip.
It all depends how much push you have on the boards to allow the tractor wheel down the furrow bottom, I,m Ploughing 8" in high cut, but 28" on scratches or chip for you

I guess so, but it does have a bearing as you're cutting a 6"x10" slice and inverting it, but I understand its the board push that displaces it. I run my plough at about 10.5" push so its similar...