Grazing clover

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Have been offered this to graze with store lambs before he ploughs and plants with wheat was a red clover and rye grass mix (clover taken over) 18ac field was going to strip graze possible buffer feed with straw/hay and other tips my first time grazing that much clover ?? Thanks
 

Sid

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Livestock Farmer
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South Molton
store lambs

Not ideal if it's ewe lambs or ewes this close to mating but no problem otherwise , I just baled mine and it's growing back fast

What difference does it make to what the OP asked about.

I would be careful putting cattle in they may bloat.
Just about as relevant 🙄

Even cheaper if you graze it Delboy 😉

Get them in there grazing it, they will do well on it, best to dock tails before to keep them cleaner.
 

DanM

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Wiltshire
Not ideal if it's ewe lambs or ewes this close to mating but no problem otherwise , I just baled mine and it's growing back fast

The op is asking about store lambs, but surely… (as a seed salesman), you should be pointing out that the photo-oestrogen effects of red clover are cumulative in terms of breeding and that new, modern varieties of red (eg. AberRuby) have been bred with much lower levels to reduce the issue.
 

Tim W

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Wiltshire
The lambs will do just fine on the clover just keep an eye on them regularly.
Red clover not an issue only for ewes near tupping but most sheep men know this.
Even for ewes red clover is not necessarily a problem
The effects are cumulative and take quite a while to build up

I ran breeding ewes on 25% RC leys for 8+ years (6 months or more in every year) and weaned 160% to 179% with 2% barren

Modern varieties reduce this effect even further
 
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Ceredigion
The op is asking about store lambs, but surely… (as a seed salesman), you should be pointing out that the photo-oestrogen effects of red clover are cumulative in terms of breeding and that new, modern varieties of red (eg. AberRuby) have been bred with much lower levels to reduce the issue.
Ibers recomedation for a Red Clovers is not to feed around Mating
It's been done to death on here ,
 

som farmer

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somerset
what would be the protien content, of that clover, baled and wrapped ?
introduce slowly, provide a bit of fibre, you should be able to see the lambs grow !
we are using rc as a protien source, in bales, for the dairy, which is why l asked p level, actual experience is often more accurate than theory !
 
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Ceredigion
They need to do a little research then ;)
I've showed all the research a 100 times and got slated for it .
There are as many who feed red clover and never get problems as those who won't go near it , I suspect even Ibers could not give you a conclusive answer, my personal view is unless it's for fattening lambs then avoid it in sheep pastures as Clovers can take over in certain fields even when you only sow small amounts
 
Location
Ceredigion
what would be the protien content, of that clover, baled and wrapped ?
introduce slowly, provide a bit of fibre, you should be able to see the lambs grow !
we are using rc as a protien source, in bales, for the dairy, which is why l asked p level, actual experience is often more accurate than theory !
We have tested some at 20% but can vary a lot
 

Sid

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
what would be the protien content, of that clover, baled and wrapped ?
introduce slowly, provide a bit of fibre, you should be able to see the lambs grow !
we are using rc as a protien source, in bales, for the dairy, which is why l asked p level, actual experience is often more accurate than theory !
Could be 18/20%
 

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