Great article in The Times

[CopperBeech]

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[CopperBeech]

Read this today, accurate and very apt. Lost my main block of ground Monday, in favour of rewilding by a London based Hobby land owner.

 

[CopperBeech]

Most likely will have to sell the flock. Lost another 500 acre block end of last week because the rich London property developer owners have two dogs which bite people and attack sheep and horses and they don’t want the stress of worrying so the whole 500 acre farm is now just a place to walk to stroker dogs.

Makes me wonder why i bother. Hard work and being good at what you do means nowt these days.

 

[CopperBeech]

It gets better. The rewilders keep telling us how much it will help the local community. Well they’ve just kicked the project for disabled children fishing on the estate lakes off ..... so they can return it to nature and get beavers.

 

[Exfarmer]

Very sorry to hear this it must be a very bitter blow, you are absolutely right in your conclusions. I personally have always disliked the idea of tenants and landowners. I was very lucky to be in that generation after the war when landowning did not benefit from IHT benefits. So land was purchasable by farmers not city investors

 

[snarling bee]

Very sorry to hear this it must be a very bitter blow, you are absolutely right in your conclusions. I personally have always disliked the idea of tenants and landowners. I was very lucky to be in that generation after the war when landowning did not benefit from IHT benefits. So land was purchasable by farmers not city investors

Will Rewilded land still qualify for IHT?? It isn't agricultural.

 

[Exfarmer]

Will Rewilded land still qualify for IHT?? It isn't agricultural.

Plenty of ways round it now, guess most would be owned off shore or in charitable trusts!

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Will Rewilded land still qualify for IHT?? It isn't agricultural.

should landowners have to apply for planning permission to rewild? I think they should.

 

[Exfarmer]

should landowners have to apply for planning permission to rewild? I think they should.

I suspect it would go through the process on the nod, sadly!

 

[ARW]

It’ll all be back in production shortly, we will look back and laugh at it in a few years time when the demand for food increases and we will be getting grants for draining and growing crops

 

[Exfarmer]

It’ll all be back in production shortly, we will look back and laugh at it in a few years time when the demand for food increases and we will be getting grants for draining and growing crops

Will that be before or after Vlad turns off the gas to Europe?

 

[ARW]

Will that be before or after Vlad turns off the gas to Europe?

I don’t know it’s hard to predict but unless population drops by an actual pandemic soon we will get hungry!

 

[yellowbelly]

Lost my main block of ground Monday,

Most likely will have to sell the flock. Lost another 500 acre block end of last week

Jeeez, sorry to hear that - puts into perspective one of our landlords wanting 10 acres back to 'save the planet' by planting it with trees.
Here's hoping something will turn up for you.

With all the cr@p that is rewilding, ELMS and the attitude of much of the general public, I'm pleased I'm nearer to the end of my farming career than the start of it.

 

[Werzle]

Will that be before or after Vlad turns off the gas to Europe?

They used to say that we will end up being hungry with the lights on because of these schemes but it looks like we will be hungry in the dark now too

 

[steveR]

Most likely will have to sell the flock. Lost another 500 acre block end of last week because the rich London property developer owners have two dogs which bite people and attack sheep and horses and they don’t want the stress of worrying so the whole 500 acre farm is now just a place to walk to stroker dogs.

Makes me wonder why i bother. Hard work and being good at what you do means nowt these days.

FFS, that is just plain and bloody awful.

If they must have animals like that, then just put in a proper security fence around a few acres. Madness.

 

[SteveHants]

Most likely will have to sell the flock. Lost another 500 acre block end of last week because the rich London property developer owners have two dogs which bite people and attack sheep and horses and they don’t want the stress of worrying so the whole 500 acre farm is now just a place to walk to stroker dogs.

Makes me wonder why i bother. Hard work and being good at what you do means nowt these days.

That's a f**king travesty.

 

[neilo]

@ajd132 ^^^this is why your idea of joint venture plans with large arable farms will be treated with contempt by most. Without security of tenure, the livestock farmer is completely at the whim of others.

 

[Woolless]

Most likely will have to sell the flock. Lost another 500 acre block end of last week because the rich London property developer owners have two dogs which bite people and attack sheep and horses and they don’t want the stress of worrying so the whole 500 acre farm is now just a place to walk to stroker dogs.

Makes me wonder why i bother. Hard work and being good at what you do means nowt these days.

What a complete bloody joke. Sounds like those dogs need a bullet rather than bought a 500 acre playground!

I really hope you get sorted with an alternative.

 

[bluebell]

the thing is this once its built on its gone? the amount that has been built on here in essex and about to be built on? structure plans for the next 15 years to find sites to build on is truely frightening? simple question who are this houses being built for?

 

[ajd132]

@ajd132 ^^^this is why your idea of joint venture plans with large arable farms will be treated with contempt by most. Without security of tenure, the livestock farmer is completely at the whim of others.

It wasn’t my idea. Farm clusters are an example of collaboration when it comes to this sort of thing that are popping up all over the country. I have merely been to a couple of meetings with one proposed in our area.