Greene King - Eating Inn

[Man_in_black]

This chain have recently launched their new grill menu & are making a big deal about the fact they only use Argentine beef on their grills. Personally I find this (at best) annoying & honestly disgusting. Can you imagine how many pubs in Argentina serve British beef, or in France or pretty much anywhere but here!

I've emailed Greene king, might help if a few of us do.


[email protected]

 

[yellowbelly]

I've emailed Greene king, might help if a few of us do.

I've put them on my beers/pubs to avoid list

 

[Mixedupfarmer]

This chain have recently launched their new grill menu & are making a big deal about the fact they only use Argentine beef on their grills. Personally I find this (at best) annoying & honestly disgusting. Can you imagine how many pubs in Argentina serve British beef, or in France or pretty much anywhere but here!



[email protected]

Don't worry I am sure the NFU press team are on too it!

 

[hendrebc]

Don't worry I am sure the NFU press team are on too it!

 

[Mixedupfarmer]

In all seriousness the NFU, Red tractor, AHDB beef and lamb, etc should be all over this, with high quality press / media specialists to counter this and other issues, pushing well researched responses as to why English / UK produce should be what the consumer should look for, on social, economic, quality, food safety, transport mileage, employment, etc, etc.

 

[Woolless]

We went on honeymoon to Argentina 13 years ago and stayed on an estancia (ranch) during part of our trip. I would have to say that the beef there was excellent. It's something of a national obsession. Where we stayed they ran herds of red and black Angus, plus Herefords, out on the pampas. In other words, genetics that had been exported from here fifty years and more previously, grass fed. I believe that Argentinians were big players at the Perth bull sales at that time.

It crossed my mind at the time that there had to be a business opportunity importing beef of that quality, with a lower price of production, into Britain.

 

[Johnnyboxer]

We went on honeymoon to Argentina 13 years ago and stayed on an estancia (ranch) during part of our trip. I would have to say that the beef there was excellent. It's something of a national obsession. Where we stayed they ran herds of red and black Angus, plus Herefords, out on the pampas. In other words, genetics that had been exported from here fifty years and more previously, grass fed. I believe that Argentinians were big players at the Perth bull sales at that time.

It crossed my mind at the time that there had to be a business opportunity importing beef of that quality, with a lower price of production, into Britain.

Post Brexit we will see more of this if we want to 'embrace' world trade


Nothing unlawful for Greene King to source their raw materials from where they wish, if they deem the product is cheaper or better quality?

Be careful what you have wished for.............in a post Brexit world

 

[hendrebc]

In all seriousness the NFU, Red tractor, AHDB beef and lamb, etc should be all over this, with high quality press / media specialists to counter this and other issues, pushing well researched responses as to why English / UK produce should be what the consumer should look for, on social, economic, quality, food safety, transport mileage, employment, etc, etc.

I know it just goes to show how useless they can be sometimes (not always)
@Guy Smith

 

[Bury the Trash]

We went on honeymoon to Argentina 13 years ago and stayed on an estancia (ranch) during part of our trip. I would have to say that the beef there was excellent. It's something of a national obsession. Where we stayed they ran herds of red and black Angus, plus Herefords, out on the pampas. In other words, genetics that had been exported from here fifty years and more previously, grass fed. I believe that Argentinians were big players at the Perth bull sales at that time.

It crossed my mind at the time that there had to be a business opportunity importing beef of that quality, with a lower price of production, into Britain.

What is their current Foot and Mouth Disease staus ...? or is that info ?

 

[Woolless]

What is their current Foot and Mouth Disease staus ...? or is that info ?

I would like to think that they're FMD free if beef is coming in to this country. Would be very surprised if they weren't.

 

[Man_in_black]

Here's the reply I received, absolute laughable.

Dear Mr McKean

Thank you for taking the time to contact us in relation to the Argentine beef.

Our Food Team have done extensive research and have provided us with the below factors:

• Argentina is one of the world's favourite beef producing countries.
• Argentina's rainfall, temperature, climates & rich soil means that the grass grows in perfect conditions. The fine grass shines through in the beef.
• The cattle are free to roam and feed on grass across this vast terrain, this relaxed lifestyle leads to tender beef. No cattle spend any time in feed lots.
• The meat is Matured for a minimum of 30 days for fantastic tenderness and eating quality, that's why Argentinean beef is famous for its flavour, juiciness & succulence. We choose Argentinian beef over British beef for this reason.
• All cattle are humanely slaughtered prior to being shipped over the UK in state of the art abattoir facilities. Antibiotics are strictly administered to animals only in the event an animal is sick, never routinely to prevent sickness.

Thank you for again for taking the time to contact us.

Kind Regards,

Faye Lloyd-Jones
Guest Relations

 

[swt]

That is the exact reply I received from them.

 

[spin cycle]

time for a 'farmers don't drink greene king' campaign

 

[crazy_bull]

In all honesty if they want to market their business in that way or source the meat from abroad who is anyone to say they shouldn't. If a rival chain decided to put their choice into British beef again it's their choice. They are in the business to make money and they obviously think that Argentinian beef will be better to do so than UK. There are many local pubs offering local beef on the menu, originally done to differentiate themselves from the rest, now many people are doing it changing source again offers something different.

We are all great preachers of everyone should buy British because it's the best or because they should support the British farmer (I bet there is not a country in the world who don't say something similar about their farmers/fisherman etc) ...... said whilst driving German/Japanese cars or watching American sit coms on Chinese tellys powered by French electricity.... (ok, once again over simplified).

This is something the chain is adding value to, marketing at a premium, wait till we get import tariffs free ethanol or meat from the states that will take the bottom in the market.

If the chain gets more people eating beef then they might try and replicate it at home with UK sourced gear.

C B

 

[crazy_bull]

time for a 'farmers don't drink greene king' campaign

Isn't it made in Suffolk using British barley....... why aren't you supporting British barley growers

C B

 

[spin cycle]

Isn't it made in Suffolk using British barley....... why aren't you supporting British barley growers

C B

plenty of other beers to choose from.....feck um...i'll be asking my friends not to drink greene king

 

[Johnnyboxer]

They do make a good pint though

 

[Man_in_black]

In all honesty if they want to market their business in that way or source the meat from abroad who is anyone to say they shouldn't. If a rival chain decided to put their choice into British beef again it's their choice. They are in the business to make money and they obviously think that Argentinian beef will be better to do so than UK. There are many local pubs offering local beef on the menu, originally done to differentiate themselves from the rest, now many people are doing it changing source again offers something different.

We are all great preachers of everyone should buy British because it's the best or because they should support the British farmer (I bet there is not a country in the world who don't say something similar about their farmers/fisherman etc) ...... said whilst driving German/Japanese cars or watching American sit coms on Chinese tellys powered by French electricity.... (ok, once again over simplified).

This is something the chain is adding value to, marketing at a premium, wait till we get import tariffs free ethanol or meat from the states that will take the bottom in the market.

If the chain gets more people eating beef then they might try and replicate it at home with UK sourced gear.

C B

What annoys me about the reply is the way it makes it sound as those farming practices & animal welfare can only be found with the Argies; got through the bullet points and ask yourself if anyone of them can't be said the same of British beef. Who decided arg beef is supposedly something so wonderful? Even my missus goes "it is supposed to be good beef though" but why?? They use a foundation of UK traditional breeds for base of most herds. Clever marketing by Arg version of NFU/AHDB??

 

[spin cycle]

In all honesty if they want to market their business in that way or source the meat from abroad who is anyone to say they shouldn't. If a rival chain decided to put their choice into British beef again it's their choice. They are in the business to make money and they obviously think that Argentinian beef will be better to do so than UK. There are many local pubs offering local beef on the menu, originally done to differentiate themselves from the rest, now many people are doing it changing source again offers something different.

We are all great preachers of everyone should buy British because it's the best or because they should support the British farmer (I bet there is not a country in the world who don't say something similar about their farmers/fisherman etc) ...... said whilst driving German/Japanese cars or watching American sit coms on Chinese tellys powered by French electricity.... (ok, once again over simplified).

This is something the chain is adding value to, marketing at a premium, wait till we get import tariffs free ethanol or meat from the states that will take the bottom in the market.

If the chain gets more people eating beef then they might try and replicate it at home with UK sourced gear.

C B

but their website is all 'heritage' and 'craft'....the reality they're corporate crap.....support one of the other breweries....oh...and 7.5 million ha of rainforest have been cleared in argentina since 1990

besides if their consumers can choose greene king....this consumer can choose to voice his opinion to his friends

 

[HDAV]

Email is no good it’s not public need to hit twitter Facebook and make sure you have your facts right. Argentinian beef I’m sure is some of the best in the world, I’m also sure that isn’t what they are buying but the cheapest steaks they can to make a profit, offering an Argentine steak on the menu would be fine, but all of them that’s not about quality....had an amazing picanha I think steak (different cut at an award winning local place ) but it wasn’t from Argentina (pretty sure will check though)