Grinding paper glue

shearerlad

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Livestock Farmer
You do when keeping them on longer than you should - the cutter generates heat whilst being ground, the heat is always intensified at the tips as it is the area of least metal. It doesn't damage the cutter (as long as you don't go too far with it), and is a quick way to see if you're doing anything wrong.

Every grinding technique will blue the tips
No it will not. End of discussion

You need to either
- less pressure applied through pendulum
- less swipes across the paper
- change papers more often
- ensure that cutter is landing absolutely flat on the disc
 

tepapa

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North Wales
No it will not. End of discussion

You need to either
- less pressure applied through pendulum
- less swipes across the paper
- change papers more often
- ensure that cutter is landing absolutely flat on the disc
Only tips I blue are cutters for other people that they've had since the seventies or eighties of spurious makes/designs that have long since gone and that's usually as the pressure point wasn't set up modern pendulums and they tip grind from the off.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
any luck that way .... how long yer leaving it clamped and then how long before. trying to grind
know one time had a prob with glue setting was too cold and glue not going off fully before trying to grind
not been 24hrs yet will open him up later.

Funny enough just put it up on the warm stove to just help it along .
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
took it off ,no good, :confused: fairly big bubble again its not always in the same place either.
will have to try some Heiniger glue i suppose, and /or bite the bullet and get a new clamp.
..:cautious:
 

Fat Lamb

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North Yorkshire
took it off ,no good, :confused: fairly big bubble again its not always in the same place either.
will have to try some Heiniger glue i suppose, and /or bite the bullet and get a new clamp.
..:cautious:
I ordered some stuff from Horners last week. Asked them for a 500ml pot of their own glue. Lass asked if I wanted Horners or Heinegar. Don't mind I replied, was going to try your own. She said we'll send you Heinegar. Both the same price anyway. Bit of a lack of confidence in their own stuff maybe.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
I ordered some stuff from Horners last week. Asked them for a 500ml pot of their own glue. Lass asked if I wanted Horners or Heinegar. Don't mind I replied, was going to try your own. She said we'll send you Heinegar. Both the same price anyway. Bit of a lack of confidence in their own stuff maybe.
funnyily enough i almost think its not quite as stcky even as copydex ,even though it seems like the same otherwise ? :unsure:
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
smells the same anyway ....

might just put a new paper on my old lister disc i think, surface of him is way grippier ,see what happens.
 

JD-Kid

Member
be interesting what happen with older plate
the older plate im guessing groves on it maybe too much glue on newer flat plate
got me buggered to be fair why not sticking more glue not the answer in alot of cases
my plates here older steel ones with rust and groves it's like the worlds strongest man comp to get the papers off
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
got one clamped on the old disc see what hes like tomorrow. using copydex.
new disc is too clean ir, got ribs on him as well, ole one hasnt and is smooth but bit rusty not too bad tho and dry and clean apart from that .

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Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
be interesting what happen with older plate
the older plate im guessing groves on it maybe too much glue on newer flat plate
got me buggered to be fair why not sticking more glue not the answer in alot of cases
my plates here older steel ones with rust and groves it's like the worlds strongest man comp to get the papers off
the old 14 inch clamp used on the 141/2 inch new disc is the problem i think will have to get a new single clamp for it someitme i reckon.

back to old clamp on old 14 steel disc and at least im grinding again ,not too bad although there is a bubble around the spindle about and inch or out big , so im grinding up to it but not using that bit.

got some heiniger glue coming and some heinger emeries will see how that goes for now.

clean off with soapy water before as well this time,
not noticed the bubbles so much in the past but it could explain poorer grinding at times not been careful enough before. possibly.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
sorted now on last try.
used old clamp plate , the cardboard packer and Heiniger glue this time, tapping the new disc anywhere now sounds like yer grannies best jelly bowl,:D all over no bubbles .
no new clamp plate needed i reckon which is good.



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Big bubble one area
No papers not stored flat :oops: curled right up had them awhile, clean no dust tho will get some new ones.
but glue didnt go off at all before because it was clamped straight away.

back along tried a 'pre glued one' and that popped off as well wont buy any more of them.
Always store your papers flat amd preferably somewhere dry like the house . Same with your glue . Glue thatā€™s been left out in shed all winter n maybe been frosted wonā€™t stick worth a f&Ā£k
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
Heiniger emery and glue seem like a good call, my (comb at least ) grinding is now (for the first time ) showing a nice hollow grind after the stone :oops:
 

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