Groundswell 2019

[JimAndy]

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A big thanks from Rosie and myself for the kind comments about our Ice Cream. It was the first event we've done away from home and a great learning curve, especially for Rosie.
@martian and the team you put on a super event and we'd love to be back next year!
The 'honesty freezer' that we experimented with was a success, ( well done to those of you that made use of it, there were some different flavours in there) you realise just how the Groundswell event demonstrates that everyone benefits from honest business

Rosie would be chuffed if you followed / commented/liked on the usual social media.
@Daltons dairy . Facebook Instagram and Twitter

. . . and of course, we are available for other events and outlets

was great ice cream, i think i must have had a few on the first day (even tho it was cold) and 1 every hour on the second day as it was so hot. and can i also give a shout out to the Great cider that was beside you, just wish i could had more but was driving

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Funnily enough, just as you were writing that, the martianess suggested just that...we were wondering how we could justify a trip to NZ to catch up with some old mates and she said why don't we start a Groundswell down there. Then you wrote it. It's got to happen...

You could share / swap speakers too.

John King and Jono Frew are definite starters. Nicole Masters. Doug Avery.......

 

[SilliamWhale]

Funnily enough, just as you were writing that, the martianess suggested just that...we were wondering how we could justify a trip to NZ to catch up with some old mates and she said why don't we start a Groundswell down there. Then you wrote it. It's got to happen...

Carbon footprint?

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

@Kiwi Pete really would be a storming livestock panel speaker and can hold his own against anyone on dairying but I think I've scared him off ever risking outer Londonshire (Herts).

You'd have to drag NZ here to do it!

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Carbon footprint?

As with everything in life, if the net effect is positive (encourages enough folk to go carbon negative) then it need not be contradictory.

I believe NZ is ready for it.

You'd just have to work out whether to use a site in North Island or proper NZ

 

[snarling bee]

I think Claydon, Mzuri and DTS have a place as a stepping stone to pure no till. Certainly on clays I think it is a mistake to jump straight into no till if the soil is not ready for it, especially if you want to retain a margin.
I've decided to go about it in a slightly different way by going shallow and low disturbance. That is partly due to the fact that my cultivation tackle is not worn out, and will probably not depreciate at all in the next 5 years, ie its not worth a lot now. There will also be a few more DDs for sale S/H in a few years time.
You can all tell me I'm wrong, and just get on with it, if you like.

 

[Samcowman]

Glad she enjoyed it. I found it useful chatting to you both, and many others who've worked in NZ, about differences and similarities from here.

I suspect that a "NZ Groundswell" would go down well too! Perhaps @martian could offer a franchise......

Watch she doesn't try to book herself in next year and leave you babysitting

No chance I’m missing next year. It really has been a highlight of a particularly shïtty year so far.

As with everything in life, if the net effect is positive (encourages enough folk to go carbon negative) then it need not be contradictory.

I believe NZ is ready for it.

You'd just have to work out whether to use a site in North Island or proper NZ

It would have to be on the mainland of course. Jono Frew seems pretty high profile and would be an obvious start. Could even invite him over here if he’s brave enough.

@Kiwi Pete could speak next year by video link. Can’t be too hard to do

 

[Chris F]

I think Claydon, Mzuri and DTS have a place as a stepping stone to pure no till. Certainly on clays I think it is a mistake to jump straight into no till if the soil is not ready for it, especially if you want to retain a margin.
I've decided to go about it in a slightly different way by going shallow and low disturbance. That is partly due to the fact that my cultivation tackle is not worn out, and will probably not depreciate at all in the next 5 years, ie its not worth a lot now. There will also be a few more DDs for sale S/H in a few years time.
You can all tell me I'm wrong, and just get on with it, if you like.

We are seeing reports of the Mzuri being used in Scotland with users saying its not a stepping stone for them. Also depends on the crops you are trying to grow. As you say, most important bit is understanding your soil before you start and knowing what effect a machine will have on it.

 

[SilliamWhale]

I think Claydon, Mzuri and DTS have a place as a stepping stone to pure no till. Certainly on clays I think it is a mistake to jump straight into no till if the soil is not ready for it, especially if you want to retain a margin.
I've decided to go about it in a slightly different way by going shallow and low disturbance. That is partly due to the fact that my cultivation tackle is not worn out, and will probably not depreciate at all in the next 5 years, ie its not worth a lot now. There will also be a few more DDs for sale S/H in a few years time.
You can all tell me I'm wrong, and just get on with it, if you like.

Course there will if there are more sold and people upgrade to bigger ones/ newer ones

 

[Jungle Bill]

for anyone wanting to start on a smaller scale

 

[York]

enjoyed pretty much the 2 days.
good to catch up with known people & with some speakers. Very interesting to compare the development of their speeches over the years & their emphasises.
wonder how the demo site would have looked with a little rain.....
Don't know how someone was able to get every hour a ice with this queuing up.
got also in the evening my Fish & chips. next year again. looking forward to it.
York-Th.

 

[D14]

Any videos up yet?

 

[Karliboy]

There’s a few on you tube.
Just search groundswell 2019

 

[Suffolk Serf]

Any videos up yet?

Lots from the Agricology tent.
The shysters who filmed the rest of the event haven’t got their act together yet.
Pull your finger out Ian.

 

[boasley]

@martian, thank you for a fantastic show. I've been to most over the years, Cereals, Dairy, LAMMA, Agrifest etc and Groundswell was refreshingly different and better than any of them.
It is great to 1. not be dealing with endless salesmen from the moment you arrive and 2. listen to some really different speakers, so you can challenge your own point of view. Allan Savory may be a saint or a charlatan but it was fascinating to hear him speak. Jay Fuhrer was excellent and Charles Massy was pretty inspiring too, but the practical side was excellent as well, the bloke in the Soil Tent talking about N from legumes made some dry research very applicable, Simon Cowell had some really useful practical advice and the whole atmosphere was fantastic. The beer was excellent as well!
I was there for both days, for those with complaints about the potatoes I was sent to cook them in your brother's kitchen at midnight on Tuesday, they were definitely hot by the time I'd finished with them but that was where my responsibility ended! Can't wait till Groundswell 2020.

 

[D14]

Lots from the Agricology tent.
The shysters who filmed the rest of the event haven’t got their act together yet.
Pull your finger out Ian.

Cant see anything of the John Landers one though.

 

[New Puritan]

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for anyone wanting to start on a smaller scale

What is that, and are you selling it then?

 

[SilliamWhale]

Cant see anything of the John Landers one though.

He was soil tent

 

[martian]

Allan Savory's first talk is up now:

and a short piece from him explaining what he's talking about. The rest will follow shortly, I hope, on Groundswellag YouTube channel

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

I'm a bit blown away by these videos, especially after turning up at Groundswell but not attending all the seminars