Groundswell 2019

martian

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BASE UK Member
Location
N Herts
What do you think the cost per t or per m3 was for the turning? Do you own the windrow turner, or was it a contractor?
Did you do any analysis on the final product?
We turned that heap 3 times...took about half hour each time...cost? Say £100? Our own machine, so notional. Spread so much better than fym.
Waiting for analysis, but the crux is in the bugs and fungi...not sure who can analyse that. Might need to get a microscope...
 

bitwrx

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We turned that heap 3 times...took about half hour each time...cost? Say £100? Our own machine, so notional. Spread so much better than fym.
Waiting for analysis, but the crux is in the bugs and fungi...not sure who can analyse that. Might need to get a microscope...
Yeh, agree on the analysis. Standard 'fertiliser value' will be only part of the story.

What make/model is the machine? (Sorry, missed that bit at the show.)
 

Patrick JE

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Location
North Yorkshire
Yeh, agree on the analysis. Standard 'fertiliser value' will be only part of the story.

What make/model is the machine? (Sorry, missed that bit at the show.)

There you go


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martian

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BASE UK Member
Location
N Herts
Yeh, agree on the analysis. Standard 'fertiliser value' will be only part of the story.

What make/model is the machine? (Sorry, missed that bit at the show.)
Sorry, am distracted atm and never answered your question (but thanks to Patrick for the pix). It's a Sandberger ta400 from memory...they don't make them any more. It's a 4 metre machine which can be a bit tight first time through, if the trailer loads are too big. Here it is in action.
We're trying to get an Innovative Farmers fieldlab going on compost...very hard to get good knowledge about the best ways to get to perfect compost. Are we doing too much turning or too little? What are the benefits (if any) of adding rock dust or whatever.
Probably ought to start a new thread...
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snarling bee

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Arable Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
Question;
Do you not loose all the Nitrogen by composting? Or do the benefits outweigh that? Or don't you think there is much N remaining in the FYM left over winter even if untouched?
 

Patrick JE

Member
Location
North Yorkshire
Sorry, am distracted atm and never answered your question (but thanks to Patrick for the pix). It's a Sandberger ta400 from memory...they don't make them any more. It's a 4 metre machine which can be a bit tight first time through, if the trailer loads are too big. Here it is in action.
We're trying to get an Innovative Farmers fieldlab going on compost...very hard to get good knowledge about the best ways to get to perfect compost. Are we doing too much turning or too little? What are the benefits (if any) of adding rock dust or whatever.
Probably ought to start a new thread...View attachment 834732
Sorry, am distracted atm and never answered your question (but thanks to Patrick for the pix). It's a Sandberger ta400 from memory...they don't make them any more. It's a 4 metre machine which can be a bit tight first time through, if the trailer loads are too big. Here it is in action.
We're trying to get an Innovative Farmers fieldlab going on compost...very hard to get good knowledge about the best ways to get to perfect compost. Are we doing too much turning or too little? What are the benefits (if any) of adding rock dust or whatever.
Probably ought to start a new thread...View attachment 834732
Got a couple of short videos of it working if someone would be so kind as to explain how to upload them, or point me in the right direction for instructions on TFF?
Cheers
 

Simon C

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Essex Coast
Question;
Do you not loose all the Nitrogen by composting? Or do the benefits outweigh that? Or don't you think there is much N remaining in the FYM left over winter even if untouched?

If the Carbon:Nitrogen ratio is about right at the start of composting, there will be none showing up on a standard NPK test at the end. It will all still be there, but tied up in the stable organic matter. When applied, the N won't rush into the crop and make it lush and green like it would from raw manure, but the plants will still be able to access it in a more controlled manner without promoting diseases.
 

CastleM

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Southern Ireland
Sorry, am distracted atm and never answered your question (but thanks to Patrick for the pix). It's a Sandberger ta400 from memory...they don't make them any more. It's a 4 metre machine which can be a bit tight first time through, if the trailer loads are too big. Here it is in action.
We're trying to get an Innovative Farmers fieldlab going on compost...very hard to get good knowledge about the best ways to get to perfect compost. Are we doing too much turning or too little? What are the benefits (if any) of adding rock dust or whatever.
Probably ought to start a new thread...View attachment 834732
Did the farmers field lab get going after this? Hard to find good info on this
 

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