Colin
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- Location
- Perthshire
It could be worse, you could be putting it into central storage.
Growing grain rye.
- Thread starter Farmer-George
- Start date
- Location
- northampton
Who’s that price from pm if you like
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Harsh. At least when my 18 percent moisture spring barley goes to cs I won't have sleepless knights wondering about turning it to stop the greens sprouting, or how many ££££ I'll get for it.
For rye at least Cs will clean the ergot out.
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
I've just had a price for seed £80 less than the price in the contract!!!!!!
Farmer-George
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What variety was that for?
Farmer-George
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I’m told a few days later than winter barley.
Pieces_of_Eight
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Does anyone know the contract spec?
Bushelweight, protein, etc etc?
Bushelweight, protein, etc etc?
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
Any of the kws hybrids.
68kg/hl 15% 2%admix 0.2% ergot.
Pieces_of_Eight
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No mention of protein or falling number or anything peculiar?
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
No but I'm sure theres scope to dream up a claim or two for something if they felt the need.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
We used to grow it for Ryvita via BDR. Quite a while ago. It does very well on light land and doesn’t suffer the same manganese problems as it’s deep rooting. Fungicide programme needed to be as good as for wheat and plenty of PGR. Ours usually ended up 7 ft tall, flat and could only be combined one way. That was maybe 20 years ago so no doubt breeding has improved. We got a bit fed up of getting well under feed wheat price for a product fit for human consumption and royally done over a barrel for the seed which we had to buy from them as part of the contract. Often had to store it right to next June for them as well. Ergot was quite a problem and was even in the seed they supplied. A useful crop but as ever others seem to want the icing on the cake. Don’t know what present contracts are like so can’t comment on them. If it’s straw you want, then I can’t think of a better crop.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
One thing I do remember is to wear a pair of gloves while you are pulling it out the combine drum. The straw is splintery. Not a problem for bedding but can stick in your hand if the straw slips through your hand. The straw was so long it used to wrap right round our old Massey drum, but only if it was coming in head first.
We've grown non-hybrid rye for a year or two, save our own seed and spend very little on it. Grows quite tall, been so dry here it hasn't fallen over lately. Combined it early, not a big yield and normally sell around wheat price. Our land is probably too good for it...like triticale, it best suits thin ground, fairly rabbit proof too.
Also like triticale (not surprisingly as it's half rye half wheat) it is good pig food, but not enough is grown for the big mills to be arsed to change their ingredients, or so I'm told.
Also like triticale (not surprisingly as it's half rye half wheat) it is good pig food, but not enough is grown for the big mills to be arsed to change their ingredients, or so I'm told.
Acke
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- Location
- Sweden Enköping
Combine some today , first rye since 25 years on our farm! Yield around 7,5 ton . Better than it looks. It is a non hybrid called Herakles. 120 kg/n easy herbicid control, some fungicid an pgr . Have some brownrust!
Colin
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- Location
- Perthshire
Acke! This will be our 5th harvest, been averaging from 7.5 to 10t/ha. kws keep bringing out better varieties which give better yields. Ive never tried non hybrids due to the perceived ergot risk. Do you get a lot in your crops? Also had some SU varieties.
Acke
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- Location
- Sweden Enköping
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
Ergot
- Location
- Lincolnshire
they don’t worry about it if it suits them.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Anybody who is interested in ergot ought to go see a rendition of “the crucible” by Arthur Miller. The halucinogenic effects of the ergot in the rye produced by the first settlers in the States were the basis of that play.