Growing grass Gross Margin

Discussion in 'Cropping' started by Banana Bar, Dec 7, 2017 at 8:35 PM.

  1. Banana Bar

    Banana Bar Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    I’ve been asked to drill some grass for a local chap. He wants me to plant fertilise and spray and he will cut the grass and take the crop for either hay or haylage. What kind of GM am I likely to see? Could be useful as I shall be taking out some smaller awkward fields.

    BB
     
  2. An Gof

    An Gof Member

    Location:
    Cornwall

    Grass :eek::eek::eek::eek: you'll be back keeping sheep again if you're not careful :LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

    See you next week (y)(y)
     
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  3. Thick Farmer

    Thick Farmer Member

    Location:
    West Wales
    £150/acre per cut
     
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  4. Iben

    Iben Member

    Location:
    N Fife
    Per cut? 3 cuts a year, £450/yr/ac.
     
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  5. static

    static Member

    Location:
    Lincoln-ish.
    I think the chap mowing the OP's grass is only planning on taking a single cut of hay really.
     
  6. Banana Bar

    Banana Bar Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    No, should be 2 cuts of hay or haylage
     
  7. Banana Bar

    Banana Bar Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    Looking forward to it ( shooting not sheep!)
     
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  8. Iben

    Iben Member

    Location:
    N Fife
    What's the budget for seed/spray/fert in year 1?
     
  9. Banana Bar

    Banana Bar Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    No idea, that’s why I’m asking
     
  10. An Gof

    An Gof Member

    Location:
    Cornwall
    Been up in Morpeth today on reconnaissance mission. Take your thermals it’s bl**dy cold.
     
  11. An Gof

    An Gof Member

    Location:
    Cornwall
    I know a good man for seed ;)(y)
     
  12. Banana Bar

    Banana Bar Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    Off to the alps 2days after Northumberland, it’s -18c windchill there!
     
  13. An Gof

    An Gof Member

    Location:
    Cornwall
    Oh to be a proper arable farmer, shooting in the week and skiing at the weekend :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
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  14. Banana Bar

    Banana Bar Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    Not skiing, taking part in a study tour exploring farming and grazing systems on extreme slopes whilst covered in snow!
     
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  15. An Gof

    An Gof Member

    Location:
    Cornwall
    Ah, that’s ok then, fully tax deductible. I suppose next week is a practical course on vermin and wildlife control for farmers. :ROFLMAO:
     
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  16. eagleye

    eagleye Member

    Location:
    co down
    seed £60+per acre, Lime?, fertiliser? depends on soil analysis but could be around £50 per cut.
    Cutlivations to establish the grass?
    We did this costing on monday and got full costs of around £400 per year for 6 year grass ley.
    This covered cultivation, lime, fertiliser, spray, seed, rolling and picking stones, applying fertiliser between each of three cuts. no harvestng costs included.
     
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  17. Banana Bar

    Banana Bar Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    How much did you calculate on variable costs alone per ha?
     
  18. It's the fertiliser that you need to worry about. Spray if you tidy it up in once it's established is less than £10/acre. But you start taking serious cuts off it and the P and K will be the next thing to look at.
     
  19. Cowski

    Cowski Member

    Location:
    South West
    What about putting a red clover/grass ley in? Bagged N is one of the main costs to a cutting ley if you don’t have slurry to go back on plus you’ll get better summer quality and growth with red clover in a dry area. We put in 80ac as a trial 18 months ago and so far much prefer it to an Italian cutting ley.
     
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  20. Grassman

    Grassman Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    I'm not clear as to the arrangement here. Are you expecting him to pay per tonne or acre?
     
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