Growing linseed after linseed

[ajd132]

Yes. I reckon the oats compete better; yield better when drilled later; happier on clay; less inputs. Downsides are you are reliant on the oats smothering the BG; have the foul straw to deal with which you may have to just give away; and they are seemingly trickier to sell well. I like them most as they seem to dry out really quick after a shower, which is seemingly quite often.

I have no issues with being able to sell anything as that's where Camgrain really is fantastic.
So much less tied up with growing things like oats aswell, especially with wheat worth bugger all and costing slot to grow.
Does anyone grow winter oats? Looking at trials data it seems they yield no more than the springs, but I guess quality is better?

 

[franklin]

Dont grow winter oats any more.

 

[rob1]

I have no issues with being able to sell anything as that's where Camgrain really is fantastic.
So much less tied up with growing things like oats aswell, especially with wheat worth bugger all and costing slot to grow.
Does anyone grow winter oats? Looking at trials data it seems they yield no more than the springs, but I guess quality is better?

Are you trying to start up the central storage fight again? I made a new years resolution that I would goad the on farm store fans this year
rfit thst was meant to say wouldnt

 

[Fuzzy]

Are you trying to start up the central storage fight again? I made a new years resolution that I would goad the on farm store fans this year
rfit thst was meant to say wouldnt

Do you have blackgrass ? How are you dealing with it ? Spring barley and linseed are my cleanest fields, and the winter barley was until about 2 weeks ago ....but not now !!!!!!

 

[rob1]

Do you have blackgrass ? How are you dealing with it ? Spring barley and linseed are my cleanest fields, and the winter barley was until about 2 weeks ago ....but not now !!!!!!

Yes Am using SB and westerwold grass breaks to control it, have a few odd bits in the wheat after last years grass but have rogued most of it got a few odd bits to redo that has come up late, the SB ls third year and so far looks very good but still time for it to appear yet, sadly I have one small piece that has been virtually clean for a few years that has a fair bit in it this year, I feel this is from seed blown over it from a working area used by network rail, only grown linseed once and had a problem with BG in it as didnt use avadex and had poor control last year in WW in that field have grassed it down this time and luckily managed to cut it for haylage about ten days after it headed this seems to have killed it, there seems to be a sweet spot when cutting it, too early and it regrows too late and seed is viable, just right and it seems to die but seed isnt viable, luck with the weather is needed so I can make haylage, guess if it was for silage it would be less weather dependent

 

[ajd132]

Are you trying to start up the central storage fight again? I made a new years resolution that I would goad the on farm store fans this year
rfit thst was meant to say wouldnt

Let them muck about all winter loading out random lorries all over the place and spend half their life sat waiting for them to turn up, I've got better things to do!

 

[AT Aloss]

Whilst I agree with what you say many people in the days of a flax subsidy used to grow continuous flax. Years 1 and 2 were good but then the yields declined rapidly until by year 5 you got virtually no yield at all. After set aside, if the fields were particularly dirty, we used to clean them up with two linseed crops in succession. This was mainly because linseed had the advantage of being able to take both grass and blw easily out of the crop. Obviously, once the field was back in production we would then leave it many years before we grew linseed again.

Earthworms love a bit of fusarium

 

[Barry]

Growing back to back linseed is not a good idea for all of the reasons already mentioned, however fusarium becomes a major issues when linseed is grown in tight rotations. While some varieties carry fusarium resistance genes, a 1 in 4 rotation or wider is recommended.

As the PC guys say, Fusarium could be an issue. We have seen Fusarium patches appearing after a 1 in 5 crop not huge but enough to notice.
Personally I don't think we know that much about which varieties have Fusarium resistance and to what degree. We do have an idea about which varieties have shown some susceptibility but it doesn't necessarily mean that ones that don't are 'resistant'.

Either way, linseed after linseed is not ideal.

 

[Rust]

How do you control blackgrass in linseed ??

I thought lack of canopy only encourages it ?

 

[Flat 10]

How do you control blackgrass in linseed ??

I thought lack of canopy only encourages it ?

It’s sown after main germination period but yes open canopy isn’t great. Control based on avadex, Callisto (maybe) and c max.

 

[teslacoils]

How do you control blackgrass in linseed ??

I thought lack of canopy only encourages it ?

Crawler in winter linseed. Cultural control in spring linseed. We seldom get any meaningful BG in spring linseed.

 

[Warp Land Farmer]

Crawler in winter linseed. Cultural control in spring linseed. We seldom get any meaningful BG in spring linseed.

What drilling date (ish) and method of drilling do you use in spring Linseed?

 

[teslacoils]

Subsoil in autumn. Roll. Vaddy in spring. Roll. Early to mid April depends on heat. Needs to fly out of the ground or forget it due to beetle. All fert in seedbed nowerdays. Spray the bugs as often as needed to get the plant 2" tall.

 

[Warp Land Farmer]

Subsoil in autumn. Roll. Vaddy in spring. Roll. Early to mid April depends on heat. Needs to fly out of the ground or forget it due to beetle. All fert in seedbed nowerdays. Spray the bugs as often as needed to get the plant 2" tall.

How much N would you suggest?

 

[Cambridgeshire]

I give mine about 60 kg/n in two splits 30 kgs when I see tramlines and 30 about a month later.

 

[teslacoils]

How much N would you suggest?

Depends what's there. 100kg on my cold wet clay.

 

[David.]

Is Winter linseed any good?
Asking for a friend

 

[Flat 10]

Is Winter linseed any good?
Asking for a friend

I’ll tell you after harvest. My friend has some....

 

[Flat 10]

I’ll tell you after harvest. My friend has some....

It’s not funny ?

 

[teslacoils]

Is Winter linseed any good?
Asking for a friend

I'd be lying if I knew anyone who has grown it twice....