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Discussion in 'Holistic Farming' started by Militantvegan97, Sep 3, 2018.

  1. Militantvegan97

    Location:
    Swansea
    As a vegan soy is an essential part of the diet, but I do not like how it is costing the earth to make it. Thinking of growing my own soy on a smaller system for my own personal use. Has anyone done this before? If so could you give some advice?

    Thank you in advance
     
  2. Get your protein from road kill, sustainable wildlife sources or holistically farmed animals. You wont grow soya consistently or sustainably in the UK. I agree that the production and reliance on GM soya for human and animal feed is damaging and our dependence is potentially dangerous. I have numerous customers who buy meat from me as they are suffering the health consequences of years of vegetarianism and need the nutrition from meat. Humans evolved as omnivores it will be very difficult to provide the nutrients you require from plants. Good luck.
     
  3. DartmoorEwe

    DartmoorEwe Member

    Location:
    Yelverton, UK
    You wont find much support for veganism on this forum as farmed animals are the best way to convert grass (which grows well almost everywhere) into protein.

    However someone ran a thread a few months ago which might be worth a look
    DD Soya (2018)
    sorry I can't link direct but a quick search should find it. I don't think the crop did much.
     
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  4. DartmoorEwe

    DartmoorEwe Member

    Location:
    Yelverton, UK
  5. Militantvegan97

    Location:
    Swansea
    Thank you :)
    I understand that this forum may not enjoy the presence of vegans, but I would like to say, despite my username, I appreciate animals and the work that you do, I am in no way against this. The reason I became a vegan was because I didn't enjoy eating meat, cooked or otherwise, but I am well aware that there are many who do.
     
  6. Blaithin

    Blaithin Member

    Location:
    Alberta, Canada
    Soy beans like heat units. Without that you’ll struggle. Most likely need to find a GMO variety more tweaked for your climate.

    FWIW soy is chock full of phytoestrogens which are being linked to mega health issues. There’s a big wide open space between not liking meat and being vegan, having to rely on soy, beans and supplements.

    Vegan is a lifestyle choice. Vegetarianism is a diet.
     
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  7. Militantvegan97

    Location:
    Swansea
    Well @Blaithin When I started out not eating meat, after years of doing so, it was firstly because I had read certain things put about by vegan organisations about how better the diet was for you than a diet which included meat, the welfare and such on farms and so forth. Being a still developing teenager at the time I took these things as literal and came off meat completely. Since then I have read other things to prove that veganism isn't the way to a healthier you and slowly reintroduced, eggs, milk and so forth back into my diet. When it came to meat however I just found I couldn't stomach the taste any longer, even of those grass reared products. My username is merely put how I still see myself in many ways, but alluding to my youth. It is very interesting being a part of this forum and seeing how farming works :) Thank you for the advice ;)
     
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  8. chaffcutter

    chaffcutter Moderator

    Location:
    S. Staffs
    Don't know where you are geographically but we have tried to grow soya twice here without success, definitely too far north for what is basically a warm climate plant. Don't bother, until newer strains are bred for cooler climates it's a waste of time.
     
  9. Old McDonald

    Old McDonald Member

    Location:
    Inland Portugal
    How much land do you have? What weight of beans do you need in a year? Do you just want to grow for yourself, or a wider group of people, or even sell them?

    I have grown them in Australia (offhand I cannot remember if it was 40acres of Soy and 100 acres of Mung, or the other way around) and here in Portugal on a small scale of just a few hundred square metres as a trial because I wanted some high protein legumes to mix with maize for a cheap feed for various types of poultry. I was not impressed on either occasion.

    Why is soy essential? I think the veggies of the world have been conned into thinking that by big businesses in the Americas. As a vegan you must have an extremely good knowledge of human nutrition if you are to remain healthy. I am by nature against the consumption of any pills or food supplements. I get all I need from my food. Apart from a kidney stone on each side many years apart, I have not had any illness requiring medical attention since I was very young. I am now 74.

    You might be interested in my idea of how a vegan farm could be operated. It is in my book, but I also put out a condensed version as a blog. You can access the blog through my website (below every post I make) and just scroll down the list until you see "A vegan farm" I do not post often so it is a short list. Posted about two years ago I think, maybe a little longer.
     
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  10. Old McDonald

    Old McDonald Member

    Location:
    Inland Portugal
    @Militantvegan97 were you serious when you began the thread? I told you I had grown it - on possibly a larger scale than you intend, and also on possibly a smaller scale than you intend too, so asked some pertinent questions to be able to give you the further information you requested in the OP.

    I note you "liked" my post within a couple of minutes of me making it, but that is rather pointless unless you follow up with some answers.
     
  11. Blaithin

    Blaithin Member

    Location:
    Alberta, Canada
    It was a troll account. Nobody too serious about growing it.
     
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  12. Ukjay

    Ukjay Member

    Location:
    In the Mud

    Lucky you - I passed one and then found out I have 5 more :LOL:
     
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