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Dog

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Location
Bath
Anyone know standard trinexapac-ethyl( modus/ trinexis) been harsh on the crop. Service agronomist recommendation aletrin evo as kinder on the crop, same active but double the price. Sounds a bit fishy to me. Rate 125ml to 175ml.
 

Shutesy

Moderator
Arable Farmer
Anyone know standard trinexapac-ethyl( modus/ trinexis) been harsh on the crop. Service agronomist recommendation aletrin evo as kinder on the crop, same active but double the price. Sounds a bit fishy to me. Rate 125ml to 175ml.
If there is nothing else in it and its the exactly the same active I think it sounds a bit fishy to me tbh. There both 250g/l products from what I can see.
Edit: @Feldspar beat me to it (y)
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Same active but VERY different price I would suspect ? How much is the aletrin Evo then ? Trinexis is just over £19 when bought well

I expect they haven’t even told you though as that news is best given after application !
 
Same active but VERY different price I would suspect ? How much is the aletrin Evo then ? Trinexis is just over £19 when bought well

I expect they haven’t even told you though as that news is best given after application !

It's an Agrii product under their Cleancrop brand AFAIK. Another good example to add to the agronomists thread!
 
Anyone know standard trinexapac-ethyl( modus/ trinexis) been harsh on the crop. Service agronomist recommendation aletrin evo as kinder on the crop, same active but double the price. Sounds a bit fishy to me. Rate 125ml to 175ml.

Unless it's a very forward / lush crop on fertile ground, if you're worried, you could cut the rate to 0.1 l/ha to reduce chance of crop effects.
 

T Hectares

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Berkshire
Yep, Moddus can be harsh on a crop, but at under 0.2 ltr/ha it wouldnt be so bad in my experience

Just googled Alatrin evo and it’s still 250g/ltr of trinexapac, what’s the difference, formulation ? have you ever had issues with Moddus before ?? what else is in the mix ??

WW I presume ??

Lots of questions but need to ask a few questions before pointing the finger at serviced leg lifting ( again )


I normally use something cheap like Trinexis with no issues...


* edit * it seems Clive and Feldspar are thinking the same as me, serviced rubbish !!
 

Grass And Grain

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
Alatrin Evo is about £45/l.

Think you apply at about 75% of rate of 250g trinexapac.

Maybe worth it if using full rate? Maybe not worth it at 0.1?

My agrii agronomist was pushing it. Hmmm.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Alatrin Evo is about £45/l.

Think you apply at about 75% of rate of 250g trinexapac.

Maybe worth it if using full rate? Maybe not worth it at 0.1?

My agrii agronomist was pushing it. Hmmm.

If it’s same concentration of same AI why can you apply lower rate and expect same job ?

Sounds like classic serviced agronomy stick it in a different bottle, rename and double or triple the price rubbish to me !

There is always a good story and a trial somewhere but quite often these service exclusive products come from the same tap in the same factory, I saw this myself last year when I visited a well known uk generic manufacturer !

trenexis is £19.26/L on marketplace btw
 
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Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
I’m no fan of spray retailers that seem to come up with these wonder versions of chemicals at over inflated values.

However, apart from the obviously waterlogged areas, by Christ have the cereal crops grown this last week! We did put a T0 on our wheat last week, knowing full well it won’t be long before we are back in with T1. I wonder if we should have upped the rate in CCC we have put on the wheat so far.

As for the Winter Barleys, they had their T1 (not having had a T0). They had the full 2 litres of CCC on the Hybrids and also 0.1 Modus on the Tower. Despite this, they have tripled in height and I can well see the need for Terpal on much of it later.

There have been many years when we have seen Barley in paintbrush of full ear by the end of April. It probably won’t happen this year, but it won’t be far into May before they do.
 
If it’s same concentration of same AI why can you apply lower rate and expect same job ?

Sounds like classic serviced agronomy stick it in a different bottle, rename and double or triple the price rubbish to me !

trenexis is £19.26/L on marketplace btw

Just checked FMP and for the first time I've seen some top prices. Most annoyingly, ordered last week a whole load of bentazone for more than what's on there by a little way. Good effort! Just need to drag ourselves out of the Middle Ages so we can pay by card. My CCC and glyphosate prices are better though.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Just checked FMP and for the first time I've seen some top prices. Most annoyingly, ordered last week a whole load of bentazone for more than what's on there by a little way. Good effort! Just need to drag ourselves out of the Middle Ages so we can pay by card.

Told you it’s getting there one step at a time ! Rome was certainly not built in a day and I’m beginning to think was probably an easier task !!

We have loads more product we can not currently list (politically) but can supply so it’s always worth a call or email for prices
 

T Hectares

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Berkshire
Alatrin Evo is about £45/l.

Think you apply at about 75% of rate of 250g trinexapac.

Maybe worth it if using full rate? Maybe not worth it at 0.1?

My agrii agronomist was pushing it. Hmmm.
If it’s over double the price it would have to be applied at less than half the rate to be better off ( it’s the same concentration though ) :scratchhead: ££££££
 

robbie

Member
BASIS
I got prescribed Alitrin evo last year.
It comes with a cleancrop label but has the syngenta symbol embossed in the can and lid like all other syngenta bottles.

I was prescribed it under the sales pitch of it having much better wetters and was needed at a reduced rate, there was never any mention of grams active or price. I just assumed (foolishly) that it would be on a par with moddus but after I applied it I got an invoice for £56 lt!!!!!!

What followed was a monumental bollocking to the agro and he's now on a reduced service and a acreage fee and I've joined niab and am doing more of the agronomy myself.
 

snipe

Member
Location
west yorkshire
Agrii recommended it to me, checked the price and sending it back. Trinexis used at £18.50. I don’t mind 5 to 10% mark up for there service but over 100% is taking the pi-s.
 
Alatrin Evo is about £45/l.

Think you apply at about 75% of rate of 250g trinexapac.

Maybe worth it if using full rate? Maybe not worth it at 0.1?

My agrii agronomist was pushing it. Hmmm.

Even then we paid £35 for it from Agrii before rebate a few years ago (contract farm with serviced agronomist). We also had Cleancrop Cutlass which is 175 g/l which was £36/l a few years ago. Luckily is 60ac of cropping and I don't have time to get there myself, but it's all poor VFM IMO.
 

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