Guess the cross

Jackson4

Member
Location
Wensleydale
Some of the BFL's with more back on them have the same head as that ewe in the photo. Barely a roman nose at all. Those copper coloured legs and bits on ears just look the spit of the charollais lambs i used to have, and the odd bit i get through the meatlink.. do you get any copper coloured bfls or rylands? Christ we need poirot.
 

Old Tip

Member
Location
Cumbria
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Here's another photo of her before she lambed triplets
So what are the lambs in the photo Old Tip? Or have I missed that somewhere?
I like Rylands.
the lambs are by the Charalois tup but look like pure's
 

llamedos

New Member
Are these the same cross, @llamedos ?


My bet is:

BFL - Roussin.

No, mine are Charolais tip x BdM ewe.

Crossed the other way you get all the bleu features though(n)

Each were accidents at the time, but the first were really good ewes, and non of the BdM traits, best of all they lost their horrid voice :LOL: No pictures of the lambs that I can find, but they romped on, no interference at lambing, only problem I recall on those was they suffered burnt ears at a couple of weeks old April born, lambed out doors.
Their own lambs, back to a Charolais tip, simply turned out as clones.
 
No, but of for a bath now so to put you all out of your misery its a BFL x Ryland

Who would of thought it, never in a million years did i think you could breed anything decent from a Ryland, but it does look like a Charolais, just longer and has more wool and as @neilo will tell you they were bred from the old Dishly Leicester cross South Down

I've had a few (6) ryelands before, as they were 30 quid at market and I thought, hell, why not and a tex x would sell from them.

They excel at milking, put on fat easy on grass and hold condition over winter, then milk off their backs - that seems to be their strong point.
Send the cull ewes dead and lean, Live you will be hammered as ryelands are fatty - I ate one of mine and it was pushing what I think the buyers would tolerate. Don't buy off hoby flocks and small holders, they're molly coddled over fed things and the valuble traits are not bred for, just pretty wooly teddy bears, which is where their bad reputation comes from!. Bred pure dont bother, 40kg lambs grade appallingly R and bellow (ive tried) and are often very fatty. Send before 35kg and youl get the same money as at 42.

Worth while if fairly priced (not more than 50 a ewe) for putting milking ability into your sheep though. I still have a few x's with 1/8 blood in them.
 

Ysgythan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Ammanford
I've had a few (6) ryelands before, as they were 30 quid at market and I thought, hell, why not and a tex x would sell from them.

They excel at milking, put on fat easy on grass and hold condition over winter, then milk off their backs - that seems to be their strong point.
Send the cull ewes dead and lean, Live you will be hammered as ryelands are fatty - I ate one of mine and it was pushing what I think the buyers would tolerate. Don't buy off hoby flocks and small holders, they're molly coddled over fed things and the valuble traits are not bred for, just pretty wooly teddy bears, which is where their bad reputation comes from!. Bred pure dont bother, 40kg lambs grade appallingly R and bellow (ive tried) and are often very fatty. Send before 35kg and youl get the same money as at 42.

Worth while if fairly priced (not more than 50 a ewe) for putting milking ability into your sheep though. I still have a few x's with 1/8 blood in them.

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Bought two ewe lambs for the wife and they had an ewe lamb each. Took them to the Welsh Winter Fair in 2006 and got second top price behind the champions. Society were a nightmare though so I crossed them out with the Texels then.
 

Ysgythan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Ammanford
was that the lambs you took? Were they pure? Interested they got second top if so!
The tex x rye is a good milky ewe with good body. Put to a suff the lambs grow and are easy E/U grades everytime. Just gotta get them gone before they put on fat.

Yes and yes. I did have a photo of a texel x ryeland lamb somewhere as well, but I can't find it.
 

Old Tip

Member
Location
Cumbria
I rent grass of the folk that have the rylands my tup got in with, i end up shearing them dosing them etc, etc, they bought them through the breed society. Two were Maffs and one only had one tit, they were robbed blind, they then got wool rot bad and the pure lambs were so fat they were bad to eat. Crossed they were amazing sheep, couldn't belive how well they did, didnt get chance to repeat the experiment as they decided never to lamb them again, but the Maffs were great teasers for my ewes, bloody things would break in every autumn and run round like made chasing ewes lol
 

Jackson4

Member
Location
Wensleydale
Those do look like Charolais ears, but bizarrely the Ryeland for an almost totally wooled sheep has those leathery, almost bare ears.

Christ we're back to ears again.. your infatuated with them, if big ears = more milk what does bare ears mean(n) genetics for ears/rain scald/dermatitis or lack of cobalt to the non craniologists.
 

Ysgythan

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Ammanford
Christ we're back to ears again.. your infatuated with them, if big ears = more milk what does bare ears mean(n) genetics for ears/rain scald/dermatitis or lack of cobalt to the non craniologists.

I was merely talking in terms of breed identification as almost everybody believed those ears were reminiscent of a Charolais.
 

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