Harvest Virgin

Robt

Member
Location
Suffolk
Local AD operation are carting through our village today. It also happens to be the open garden day. Local said to me why don’t they drive that courteous all the time..... remember that! You will never get told off for no reason for driving too slow... however you will for going too fast. Never and I mean never be afraid to a: ask for help, b:ask again if you don’t understand and c: say no, you aren’t happy doing something! We don’t need anymore super hero’s in farming ! What we do need is good young entrants so jolly well done for starting this thread .
 

tr250

Member
Location
Northants
Ask the combine driver if he prefers to fill your trailer on the second/third tip. Our rule at work is get one tank full onboard and second time pull up along side set a pace and stay exactly the same. Combine driver will vary speed to fill the trailer. Drives him wild if he tries to slow up to fill the back of the trailer and the tractor driver slows up too :ROFLMAO:
Exactly this
 

Arran Jones

Member
Arable Farmer
Hi there,
I am starting grain carting for the 1st time next week..
My only question is..when i have a 15tonne trailer behind me and i need to slow right down for a corner or to a stop..should i change down gears first and use the brake to actually stop?
And also on a steep hill i should change down gears before so i dont have to dip the clutch on the slope?

MT
Arran
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Hi there,
I am starting grain carting for the 1st time next week..
My only question is..when i have a 15tonne trailer behind me and i need to slow right down for a corner or to a stop..should i change down gears first and use the brake to actually stop?
And also on a steep hill i should change down gears before so i dont have to dip the clutch on the slope?

MT
Arran
Arran for gods sake get some training, a 15 tonne trailer can push you all over the place, especially if the brakes are not good
 

melted welly

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
DD9.
Hi there,
I am starting grain carting for the 1st time next week..
My only question is..when i have a 15tonne trailer behind me and i need to slow right down for a corner or to a stop..should i change down gears first and use the brake to actually stop?
And also on a steep hill i should change down gears before so i dont have to dip the clutch on the slope?

MT
Arran

Hi

You want to start slowing up in good time, think ahead, use the gearbox and engine to to do the donkey work, and use the brakes to keep your momentum in check, but don’t over-rev it. Just caw canny, better to be a bit late back than run over the top of someone. Expect to meet something on the blind bends, expect a car to cut in at the junction, expect someone to overtake just as your away to turn right. If you’ve lost a bit of momentum before encountering something unexpected, and are paying attention, you’ve done all you can.

On the hill, once you’re familiar with your tractor, you’ll figure it out. If you’re gonna be using a Ford with a Rubix cube box, you’re fecked whatever you do 🤣

Good luck, go steady 👍
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Make sure the trailer body is well down before driving out the shed.
We let the combine driver (myself) fill the trailer evenly. So the tractor driver just needs to drive at my slowest harvesting speed generally found by experience. My old man was a devil for trying to position the tractor and trailer where he thought it should be under the spout. It could be pouring over the back gate, I would speed up on the combine to bring the spout forward. He’d then speed up the trailer so it was pouring over the back gate again. Bless ‘em.
 

Pilatus

Member
Location
cotswolds
Am I showing my age ?To put an inexperienced driver on to 15tonne grain trailer seems to be tempting fate especially if there are a lot of hills either in the field or on the road. I sincerely hope the tractor has good brakes!!!
A serious accident waiting to happen if inexperienced driver is not given some good tuition.
Not surprising agriculture has such a poor safety record.
 

melted welly

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
DD9.
Am I showing my age ?To put an inexperienced driver on to 15tonne grain trailer seems to be tempting fate especially if there are a lot of hills either in the field or on the road. I sincerely hope the tractor has good brakes!!!
A serious accident waiting to happen if inexperienced driver is not given some good tuition.
Not surprising agriculture has such a poor safety record.

To be fair, we don’t know anything about the chap other than he’s asking for advice, instead of assuming he knows it all. Good on him.

Might be a furloughed fighter pilot, driving instructor or fast response driver by trade.
 
If I’m driving a John Deere and the trailers going to be staying on for quite a while I’ll often hitch up then slide the slider right to he bottom out the way but click the button to bring the arms right back to the top and lower them a fraction on the external controls when I put the pipes in. Sounds a faf but it’s not really and you can position them exactly where you want out of harms way.
No need for that ,just turn the height down ,under the flap
 

thorpe

Member
Drive slowly,safely and steadily.dont leave the beacons on all the time.stay of your phone and ask lots of questions.turn up early and never be late and if you got nothing to do clean your tractor or pick up a broom and use it.never stand about and dont put your hands in your pockets and stay clean and tidy.good luck
Nick...
i like the hands in the pockets bit if you go to harpur i think they do a course about putting your hands in your pockets, they dont get dirty in there!
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Teaching granny but if the trailer drawbar has a support rest for when it’s unhitched then it might be best to remove it completely when in work so it doesn’t drag the swaths about if there are any.
If you have a choice always make sure you are pointed in the direction of home when fully loaded so you don’t have to screw it round 180 when fully loaded. More applicable to when left for filling on the headland in a wet time.
 

Arran Jones

Member
Arable Farmer
Hi

You want to start slowing up in good time, think ahead, use the gearbox and engine to to do the donkey work, and use the brakes to keep your momentum in check, but don’t over-rev it. Just caw canny, better to be a bit late back than run over the top of someone. Expect to meet something on the blind bends, expect a car to cut in at the junction, expect someone to overtake just as your away to turn right. If you’ve lost a bit of momentum before encountering something unexpected, and are paying attention, you’ve done all you can.

On the hill, once you’re familiar with your tractor, you’ll figure it out. If you’re gonna be using a Ford with a Rubix cube box, you’re fecked whatever you do 🤣

Good luck, go steady 👍
Thank you...will be driving John Deeres oldest one is 2008 various models including 7260R
 
Teaching granny but if the trailer drawbar has a support rest for when it’s unhitched then it might be best to remove it completely when in work so it doesn’t drag the swaths about if there are any.
If you have a choice always make sure you are pointed in the direction of home when fully loaded so you don’t have to screw it round 180 when fully loaded. More applicable to when left for filling on the headland in a wet time.
No ,leave it on ,then can bring 6 round bales worth of straw jammed under tracor back down road ,and leave a nice trail , or get that much underneath tractor wont go any further 🤣🤣🤣
 

Tractorstant

Member
Location
Monaco.
Hi there,
I am starting grain carting for the 1st time next week..
My only question is..when i have a 15tonne trailer behind me and i need to slow right down for a corner or to a stop..should i change down gears first and use the brake to actually stop?
And also on a steep hill i should change down gears before so i dont have to dip the clutch on the slope?

MT
Arran

Arran, firstly good luck and stay safe. I would much rather a lad in any profession come to me and say I am not confident, or I need more training than trying to pick up the pieces after.

Assuming you have your own transport, bike, car, moped? See if you can drive all of the likely routes first, I remember my driving instructor took me some weird and wonderful routes, at the time I had no idea why, but when it came to my test I remember coming round a bend and remembering there is a massive hill here, so I was in the right gear before I went up.

Could another member of staff let you sit on or visa versa on the first round?

as @Exfarmer says, a 15t trailer can push you around, just take it slow and steady.

What area are you in, there may be some local knowledge on here?

Bon Chance.
 
Just take your time @Arran Jones, graveyards are full of heroes. Get someone who is familiar with the type of tractor there to explain how the transmission works, how and why certain pipes go in certain places at the rear and what controls them and what they do. Get familiar with attaching and detaching the trailer, and ensure you know when it is secure on the hitch. And just because it is a 15 ton trailer, no need for there to be 15 ton in it for your first couple of loads, until you get familiar with it.

And there is no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid mistakes. If in doubt....leave it !
 

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