Has Boris come of age?

Tigger

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Hindsight

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Well, I found the suicide vest remark distasteful, purile and inaccurate. Following on from the burka letter box does this man intend painting all his public utterances with islamaphobic slants. Hey ho presume he will keep popping up.
 

fudge

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Well, I found the suicide vest remark distasteful, purile and inaccurate. Following on from the burka letter box does this man intend painting all his public utterances with islamaphobic slants. Hey ho presume he will keep popping up.
Yeah he’s ditched his wife and taken up with Steve Bannon. Complete knob.
 

arcobob

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Well, I found the suicide vest remark distasteful, purile and inaccurate. Following on from the burka letter box does this man intend painting all his public utterances with islamaphobic slants. Hey ho presume he will keep popping up.
You obviously conclude that the suicide vest is the sole preserve of Islam. That is a bit islamaphobic is it not?
 

Exfarmer

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Changing the subject a bit, can you get mini suicide belts for rats?
The russians invented that tactic in the second world war. They trained dogs to go and lay under tanks carrying a bomb which would then be detonated.
It was a spectacular failure, as the dogs did not recognise the Nazi tanks going straight for their own which they had been trained with.
 

Hindsight

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You obviously conclude that the suicide vest is the sole preserve of Islam. That is a bit islamaphobic is it not?

If you wish to construe my comment as islamaphobic then as ever with ones own personal interpretation of written English you will consider the answer as yes.

I had not given that much in depth thought to the comment and just went with a view suicide vests in the contemporary context are I consider associated with Islamic terrorists, though as others in this thread have pointed historically, maybe even currently, not exclusively - which has been a lesson for me.

So for me when Boris Johnson refers to suicide vests in his newspaper column so recently after an article which was very cleverly written referring to Burkas which while outwardly denigrating the Burka but actually in choice of words and possibly underlying sentiment was supportive of the wearers of Burkas individual liberty to choose, I am assuming he as a politician is looking to make a point with his audience indirectly if not directly by association inferring a link with Islam.

But who knows.
 

arcobob

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If you wish to construe my comment as islamaphobic then as ever with ones own personal interpretation of written English you will consider the answer as yes.

I had not given that much in depth thought to the comment and just went with a view suicide vests in the contemporary context are I consider associated with Islamic terrorists, though as others in this thread have pointed historically, maybe even currently, not exclusively - which has been a lesson for me.

So for me when Boris Johnson refers to suicide vests in his newspaper column so recently after an article which was very cleverly written referring to Burkas which while outwardly denigrating the Burka but actually in choice of words and possibly underlying sentiment was supportive of the wearers of Burkas individual liberty to choose, I am assuming he as a politician is looking to make a point with his audience indirectly if not directly by association inferring a link with Islam.

But who knows.
My conclusion about Boris`s remark was similar to yours but then we both were lured towards the type trap that the politically correct brigade often set to ensnare us.
 

Hindsight

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My conclusion about Boris`s remark was similar to yours but then we both were lured towards the type trap that the politically correct brigade often set to ensnare us.

Boris is a very intelligent and clever man. With an excellent education thus a full understanding of English language and the meaning of individual words. He rubs alongside the elite of society. One does not get to his position and life without being so. As such I assume (and I am aware this is my assumption which you and anyone else is welcome to not agree with) that he will pretty much always be aware of the potential nuances of his writings. And I feel he is aware of those nuances to different sections and strata of the general society / public. The ordinary man on the Clapham omnibus or in my case the Case tractor in the Fen maybe is not quite so understanding of the English words.

Anyway, I await his future utterances and articles to just see, out of interest, if he continues with side references to issues / items that one might construe as to having an Islamic bent.

Hey ho. Regards.
 

Muck Spreader

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Boris is a very intelligent and clever man. With an excellent education thus a full understanding of English language and the meaning of individual words. He rubs alongside the elite of society. One does not get to his position and life without being so. As such I assume (and I am aware this is my assumption which you and anyone else is welcome to not agree with) that he will pretty much always be aware of the potential nuances of his writings. And I feel he is aware of those nuances to different sections and strata of the general society / public. The ordinary man on the Clapham omnibus or in my case the Case tractor in the Fen maybe is not quite so understanding of the English words.

Anyway, I await his future utterances and articles to just see, out of interest, if he continues with side references to issues / items that one might construe as to having an Islamic bent.

Hey ho. Regards.

IMO Johnson and Rees-Mogg are still a product of an outdated education that once trained these elites to be rulers and the rest of us to be obedient unquestioning cannon fodder. The quotation "lions lead by donkeys" could well become highly relevant in the UK's post Brexit world. Johnson was quite an affable buffoon as the mayor of London and did an ok job IMO. However, his limitations were cruelly exposed time and time again in the critical post of foreign secretary.
 

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