Has Covid lived up to your expectations?

[Guleesh]

Although there is very good understanding of how viruses work, and ability to quickly decode virus genomes and effectively track every mutation, there does seem to be quite a few things not yet fully understood or measured about how the human immune system works. The immune system is extremely complex and can go badly wrong and when it does there's not all that much can be done about it. Its not yet really understood how autoimmune diseases develop, there are conflicting hypothesis on what the causes are.

I'm not convinced that having what we perceive to be most of the information means we can confidently have all the answers.

Vaccines for the vulnerable? seems pretty obvious that this is a good idea.

Vaccines for young healthy people and potentially children? Lockdowns preventing the usual viruses to be doing the rounds and exposing young peoples immune systems to viruses normally and naturally? I'm not so sure.

I go back again to the spanish flu, It is understood that It was the russian flu encountered many years earlier and it's effect on their immune systems as children that set the scene for the 20-30 year olds to be the worst affected age group.

 

[DrWazzock]

I could probably think of a reason not to bother replacing the leaking ballcock in my hot water system .... if I thought long enough and hard enough about it. But in the meantime it’s best to just crack on and do it.....like the vaccine.

 

[delilah]

No. Corona could have been great, it could have triggered a recognition that local is not just best but safest, instead we have gone the other way. Muppets.

 

[hoff135]

We are ordered to stay at home but on the news today the authorities are trying to track down a "traveller" who came in to the country with the Brazil variant. It makes a complete mockery of all the rules we are forced to live under when people can return with new strains and potentialy put us back to square one with no vaccine. The government has been incompetent since day one when it come to travel and still dont seem to have got their act together.

 

[DrWazzock]

No. Corona could have been great, it could have triggered a recognition that local is not just best but safest, instead we have gone the other way. Muppets.

Good luck with weaning people off the addiction to travel. I don’t mind staying local at all but I don’t see it catching on any time soon, unfortunately.

 

[Pasty]

I shall be out standing in my field. Call me any time. I won't answer because I'm a rude pansy.

 

[delilah]

Good luck with weaning people off the addiction to travel. I don’t mind staying local at all but I don’t see it catching on any time soon, unfortunately.

For sure, we all like to roam in normal times, it's more about how we respond to times of crisis. The message should have been: Stay safe. Stay local. Shop local. Instead it was: Stay home. Give all of you money to Amazon and Tesco.

 

[Pasty]

For sure, we all like to roam in normal times, it's more about how we respond to times of crisis. The message should have been: Stay safe. Stay local. Shop local. Instead it was: Stay home. Give all of you money to Amazon and Tesco.

And clap like seals for people who were doing their jobs whilst yours was taken from you.

 

[Devil's advocate]

I could probably think of a reason not to bother replacing the leaking ballcock in my hot water system .... if I thought long enough and hard enough about it. But in the meantime it’s best to just crack on and do it.....like the vaccine.

You get the Jonathern Van Tam award for getting your point across

 

[7610 super q]

We are ordered to stay at home but on the news today the authorities are trying to track down a "traveller" who came in to the country with the Brazil variant. It makes a complete mockery of all the rules we are forced to live under when people can return with new strains and potentialy put us back to square one with no vaccine. The government has been incompetent since day one when it come to travel and still dont seem to have got their act together.

It does seem odd staying at home, watching the road past the house busy as f**k, and 100 fights a day landing in Heathrow...
Starting to wonder if it's just me isolating and I'm some sort of Truman show experiment....
Anyway, I've enjoyed lockdown, long may it continue.

 

[Robt]

I’ve not read any of this forum but for me it’s been a barrel of laughs. I caught Covid in October and felt ok , not great but didn’t think I was particularly unwell. Mrs kept checking my oxygen levels and wasn’t happy with them. She persuaded me me to go to Aand E it was touch and go weather I’d be kept in and put on oxygen. Thankfully I wasn’t. If my Mrs wasn’t a specialist respiratory nurse who could spot problems with my health then things could have been at lot worse for me. I’m pretty fit and Active probably a bit over weight but similar to every other one of my friends I’ve not seen for a year now.

As a matter of interest, What did your O2 levels drop too?

 

[oldoaktree]

As a matter of interest, What did your O2 levels drop too?

Low 90’s means nowt to me but my wife was very concerned. She knows about this stuff!

 

[kiwi pom]

Good luck with weaning people off the addiction to travel. I don’t mind staying local at all but I don’t see it catching on any time soon, unfortunately.

The problem is people travelling around the world has created billion dollar industries. We could all stay home and buy our food from the local farmer like the famous five did (my kids were just reading one of the books to me) and never go anywhere but what would the 60 something million population of the UK do all day?

 

[RushesToo]

It does seem odd staying at home, watching the road past the house busy as fudge, and 100 fights a day landing in Heathrow...
Starting to wonder if it's just me isolating and I'm some sort of Truman show experiment....
Anyway, I've enjoyed lockdown, long may it continue.

I have noticed that what seemed line a plane a week that I heard overheard has now increased. Can't say it has got to normal and not noticed, bith Essex and Carmarthen.

A hundred planes a day at Heathrow and we are commenting - it is like 9/11 or Eysejkavokall* all over again - just pleasantly longer.

 

[Muck Spreader]

Low 90’s means nowt to me but my wife was very concerned. She knows about this stuff!

Below 95 would be a cause of some concern in a healthy person, below 90 is becoming serious.

 

[puppet]

I see that after 2 weeks since introduction of the Brazil variant we have failed to find 34 of the 90 passengers on the plane. Apparently their details were incomplete?
So did they give no address, changed a digit in their phone number or have left the country again?
I cannot get on a plane without giving all my personal details and having my passport scanned so raises all kinds of questions as to security and immigration issues generally. If we cannot trace 30% in a pandemic what hope any other time?

 

[Highland Mule]

I see that after 2 weeks since introduction of the Brazil variant we have failed to find 34 of the 90 passengers on the plane. Apparently their details were incomplete?
So did they give no address, changed a digit in their phone number or have left the country again?
I cannot get on a plane without giving all my personal details and having my passport scanned so raises all kinds of questions as to security and immigration issues generally. If we cannot trace 30% in a pandemic what hope any other time?

It was a domestic flight, so no need for any ID/ passport - whilst some companies (Ryanair, Flybe (RIP) etc.) might ask for this as a revenue protection measure BA don't. Yes agreed that BA have been poor at tracking and tracing, but perhaps that explains some of the reason. Besides, if you were on the flight would you respond to the email sent to you and get caught with the inevitable intrusion or just hide for a fortnight and hope nothing comes up? Plenty would go for the latter.

 

[puppet]

I just looked at their security advice and am amazed that it asks you to have photographic ID as you MAY be asked for it. Considering a lot of people use a domestic flight as the last leg of international travel then it might be useful to know who is on the plane?
The history of Covid will be summed up as too late, half-baked and half-arsed

 

[Highland Mule]

I just looked at their security advice and am amazed that it asks you to have photographic ID as you MAY be asked for it. Considering a lot of people use a domestic flight as the last leg of international travel then it might be useful to know who is on the plane?
The history of Covid will be summed up as too late, half-baked and half-arsed

Photo ID on domestic flights isn’t a security requirement but is used by budget airlines for revenue protection only - it stops me buying £1 seats for six months out and selling them to “Joe Bloggs” for £100 a week out. For international travellers with add one there will be a link to passport details etc, but domestic commuters might get booked by a secretary or admin or agency so no easy way to trace back to the person on the seat.
Been like that for years - I have taken countless BA flights without any photo ID.