Has Spain got the 2nd wave ?

[bobk]

2,500 cases yesterday .

 

[Bald Rick]

Bit of a bugger for those in Spain on hols and will now have to have another two weeks off work on their return as the “air bridge” is potentially scrapped

Spain fears corona 2nd wave may be underway as UK air bridge could be axed

SPAIN has admitted a coronavirus second wave may already be underway as the UK air bridge faces being axed and France threatens to close the border. There were 971 new cases yesterday – 241 m…

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[robs1]

1000 in france to.
The world cant afford another lockdown

 

[bobk]

Bit of a bugger for those in Spain on hols and will now have to have another two weeks off work on their return as the “air bridge” is potentially scrapped

Spain fears corona 2nd wave may be underway as UK air bridge could be axed

SPAIN has admitted a coronavirus second wave may already be underway as the UK air bridge faces being axed and France threatens to close the border. There were 971 new cases yesterday – 241 m…

www.thesun.co.uk

Yes , the govt air bridge rules will be set weekly not every 3 weeks .

 

[Exfarmer]

Bit of a bugger for those in Spain on hols and will now have to have another two weeks off work on their return as the “air bridge” is potentially scrapped

Spain fears corona 2nd wave may be underway as UK air bridge could be axed

SPAIN has admitted a coronavirus second wave may already be underway as the UK air bridge faces being axed and France threatens to close the border. There were 971 new cases yesterday – 241 m…

www.thesun.co.uk

Hope so as my stupid neighbour is heading there soon

 

[bobk]

2,250 today .

 

[Hindsight]

1000 in france to.
The world cant afford another lockdown

Almost 1,000 apply for receptionist job in Manchester

With the hospitality sector savaged by the pandemic, jobs are attracting many more applicants.

www.bbc.co.uk

Quite.

 

[Daddy Pig]

Is it not compulsory to wear facemasks in Spain ?, I thought this would have stopped the spread of the virus dead in its tracks.

 

[Hindsight]

Is it not compulsory to wear facemasks in Spain ?, I thought this would have stopped the spread of the virus dead in its tracks.

May I assume that is an ironic statement??

 

[ollie989898]

I sincerely hope not.

 

[arcobob]

Some people were going into our village post office without masks yesterday. My wife asked why they were being served and the reply was that the staff were not allowed to refuse service. What a farce. These people were not only being disrespectful to the staff but other customers as well.

 

[ollie989898]

The government needs to come down hard on this and fast. Make people wear masks. They wear them in Asian countries routinely just because of air pollution. It's not big deal. If we don't it will be 100,000 deaths in the UK before Christmas.

 

[Johnnyboxer]

Oz has a second wave

 

[7610 super q]

1000 in france to.
The world cant afford another lockdown

Well they're going to get one if morons keep going on holiday, don't wear masks, don't observe social distancing.....

 

[ollie989898]

Took the kids out on Monday morning briefly to Clarks Village and the town, about 50% of people wearing masks and a peculiar one-way system in effect so people were kept from having to walk near each other. Thing that pished me off was that they shut the kiddies play park there whereas the council had opened all the local playparks.

As I walked around and saw all the old folks out enjoying the sun and pedestrianised street and market right up the middle of the road, I kept thinking I was glad of my mask as I would hate to think I was infecting all these elderly folk tho can least afford to catch it. I had a lot of pity for the bank and shop staff, too knowing that it would be they who were in the line for complaints for making people wear them or, conversely, having to refuse entry and receiving abuse as a result.

 

[ollie989898]

You need only look at the statistics on google to see that these number of respective Covid cases and deaths are highly dubious when comparing countries.

For example, the global number of Covid-19 cases is around 15.7 million. The total number of deaths is put at 640,000. So the overall, no-nonsense crude mortality rate is about 4.07%.

Using the same statistics for the UK, 298,000 cases, and 45677 deaths. Giving an approximate crude mortality rate of 15.33%.

These numbers being reported should be taken with a big dose of salt.

 

[ollie989898]

I also note the USA is back to 1000 deaths a day which is rather alarming.

 

[The Agrarian]

I'm not a right wing freedom vigilante by any means, and I'm not concerned about any freedom issues, but I think all this fuss about masks is rather overblown. These home made masks are only going to catch spots of spittle basically, which will have landed within a few feet anyway. And we shouldn't be standing that close to strangers. The micro particle aerosols they will do absolutely nothing to arrest. Ventilation is the only way to remove those as a source of risk to others, and general low density e.g. Controlling numbers in an indoor space at any one time.

So I think the fuss about masks is like the lockdown - yet another means by which politicians can hide behind and say they did everything they could have, when the disease takes it course anyway. Again, no lockdown in Sweden, no face coverings anywhere, and a similar trajectory of infections.

 

[Exfarmer]

I'm not a right wing freedom vigilante by any means, and I'm not concerned about any freedom issues, but I think all this fuss about masks is rather overblown. These home made masks are only going to catch spots of spittle basically, which will have landed within a few feet anyway. And we shouldn't be standing that close to strangers. The micro particle aerosols they will do absolutely nothing to arrest. Ventilation is the only way to remove those as a source of risk to others, and general low density e.g. Controlling numbers in an indoor space at any one time.

So I think the fuss about masks is like the lockdown - yet another means by which politicians can hide behind and say they did everything they could have, when the disease takes it course anyway. Again, no lockdown in Sweden, no face coverings anywhere, and a similar trajectory of infections.

What you misunderstand is that basically you will not find free floating virus hanging about. It will only be exhaled on droplets of spit and this is what a mask easily catches by the maze effect. This means that droplets will try and travel straight and not this way and that round the threads. They thus attach themselves to the thread hygroscopically. A mask does not need to catch everything either to have a marked effect, just taking out 80% will drastically reduce the chances cross infection , partly due to lower virus loading, would answer more but being called away

 

[bobk]

Just been to Tesco , everyone masked up , except the cashiers .