Has Spain got the 2nd wave ?

[bobk]

Except week on week the Spanish figures are jumping, exponentially!

Yes they are , but it's how they deal with it
Catalonia was a problem for Spain before covid .

 

[caveman]

Yes they are , but it's how they deal with it
Catalonia was a problem for Spain before covid .

Liverpool as well.

 

[czechmate]

Cases in Spain and France dropping quickly , call me a cynic

Huh?

 

[ollie989898]

This webpage may provide some insight into these numbers and why it is hard to find anything meaningful from them.

Excess mortality during the Coronavirus pandemic (COVID-19)

Excess mortality is a term used in epidemiology and public health that refers to the number of deaths from all causes during a crisis above and beyond what we would have expected to see under ‘normal’ conditions.1 In this case, we’re interested in how the number of deaths during the COVID-19...

ourworldindata.org

But these figures – as reported by governments and national health ministries – are the number of confirmed deaths due to COVID-19. The number of confirmed COVID-19 deaths may differ from the total death toll from the pandemic for several reasons:

• some (but not all) countries only report COVID-19 deaths which occur in hospitals – people that die from the disease at home may not be recorded;
• some countries only report deaths for which a COVID-19 test has confirmed that a patient was infected with the virus – untested individuals may not be included;
• death reporting systems may be insufficient to accurately measure mortality – this is particularly true in poorer countries;
• the pandemic may result in increased deaths from other causes for a number of reasons including weakened healthcare systems; fewer people seeking treatment for other health risks; less available funding and treatment for other diseases (e.g. HIV/AIDS, malaria, tuberculosis);
• the pandemic may result in fewer deaths from other causes – for example, the mobility restrictions during the pandemic might lead to fewer deaths from road accidents.

Of interest is that the US has stopped using the CDC to complete their statistics, it has been handed to the HHS I think the acronym was? I can't remember but the CDC are no longer being used to provide the official updates...

 

[bobk]

Huh?

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We had spikes with foot and mouth , was always going to happen .

 

[GeorgeC1]

Who says we still I first wave

 

[Still Farming]

2 weeks due here in papers today apparently?

 

[bobk]

2,800 new cases in spain today .

 

[Highland Mule]

2,800 new cases in spain today .

Compared with them being sub-600/day for the whole month of June (and mostly sub-300) - doesn't look too good, does it?

 

[bobk]

Compared with them being sub-600/day for the whole month of June (and mostly sub-300) - doesn't look too good, does it?

No it doesn't

 

[bobk]

All arrivals from Luxembourg will have to quarantine in Scotland from today , both of them ...

 

[le bon paysan]

France reports slower increase in COVID-19 cases

French health authorities reported 725 new confirmed coronavirus cases on Tuesday, below the daily average of 924 over the past week but unlikely to alleviate fears of a second wave. In a statement, authorities said "viral circulation is still sustained in France", stressing the reproduction...

news.yahoo.com

 

[bobk]

France reports slower increase in COVID-19 cases

French health authorities reported 725 new confirmed coronavirus cases on Tuesday, below the daily average of 924 over the past week but unlikely to alleviate fears of a second wave. In a statement, authorities said "viral circulation is still sustained in France", stressing the reproduction...

news.yahoo.com

I'm confident the French will get on top of it , less so your southern neighbours .

 

[bobk]

France reports slower increase in COVID-19 cases

French health authorities reported 725 new confirmed coronavirus cases on Tuesday, below the daily average of 924 over the past week but unlikely to alleviate fears of a second wave. In a statement, authorities said "viral circulation is still sustained in France", stressing the reproduction...

news.yahoo.com

1400 today .....

 

[Still Farming]

 

[Raider112]

It takes some working out how Portugal was left off that list a few weeks ago of Countries we could travel to.

 

[bobk]

Even WHO have said we need to live with covid , little point locking down every other month .

 

[Still Farming]

Yorkshire big lock down next is it?

 

[Johnnyboxer]

Yorkshire big lock down next is it?

And Greater Manchester

 

[Hindsight]

All arrivals from Luxembourg will have to quarantine in Scotland from today , both of them ...

together or in separate rooms?