Have the met office lost the plot?

DaveGrohl

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Mixed Farmer
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Cumbria
You beat me to it. It is not an emergency and we do not have just 10 years to stop everything going belly up.
The report looked at some worse case scenarios and said the temp could change by minus 3% to plus 13% making me think they are not as certain as they sound.
Wales are hammering livestock again yet only around 4% emissions most of which is CO2/ methane which is taken up by the grass they eat.
I don't see many cars or planes being able to mitigate their own GHG emissions
Indeed. I shared an article from Money Week on here a few weeks ago about climate change and emmissions. It had been written by a grown up. There was not one single mention of agriculture in the whole article. How refreshing and revealing.

And of course the 4% (I think 4.5% is more accurate) you refer to for the UK revolves around the misguided way in which methane from ruminants is included as part of the calculation. Someone with an actual understanding of maths and how this methane cycles would come to a different figure. NO2 is a bit more probelmatic for farming however, both livestock and crops. Maybe that's why the vegans never mention it?
 

C.J

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South Devon
Have a read of this article about the arrow and shoe finds at Langfonne in Norway.

It proves that Ice comes and goes , and that it was warmer 1000 years ago , and that we have had a little Ice age since.

There have been other warm periods, e.g the Roman and the Minoan ,since the last proper Ice age 20,00 years ago.




 

Humble Village Farmer

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BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
What we have to remember though is that the magic words ‘climate change’ are the key to a massive gravy train with access to unlimited amounts of money!!
A bit like farm subsidies then?

If this plays out in the way the scientists are predicting, (those people who have studied and worked on this for decades, the same type of brilliant people who have produced 3 types of vaccine for a killer virus within 12 months of the emergence of the virus itself), then money will no longer have any value. There will only be 2 currencies, food and weapons to protect that food.
 
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Sharpy

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Livestock Farmer
Have a read of this article about the arrow and shoe finds at Langfonne in Norway.

It proves that Ice comes and goes , and that it was warmer 1000 years ago , and that we have had a little Ice age since.

There have been other warm periods, e.g the Roman and the Minoan ,since the last proper Ice age 20,00 years ago.




Thank you, very interesting.
 

teslacoils

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
If we "roll with it" there is enough ice in the world to cause sea level to rise 80 metres (not feet) if it melts. So rolling with it might depend on where your farm is.

So, I should get on that plane and visit as many tropical islands now before they are submerged?

There is nothing I can do about it. There's nothing the UK can do about it. You're a long time dead and tbh I'm going to enjoy it while I'm here.
 
A bit like farm subsidies then?

If this plays out in the way the scientists are predicting, (those people who have studied and worked on this for decades, the same type of brilliant people who have produced 3 types of vaccine for a killer virus within 12 months of the emergence of the virus itself), then money will no longer have any value. There will only be 2 currencies, food and weapons to protect that food.
I would suspect that they have been working on a vaccine for longer than 12 months, in all certainty years well before the emergence of Covid 19, probably as far back as SARS.
 
Climate change is both natural and inevitable (have a look at proxies for temp change over just the last ten thousand years). Yes, we may be making it worse but It’s sheer arrogance to think that it’s solely caused by humans, and even more arrogant to think that we can stop it.
We I can’t stop it but we can mitigate it. Never quite saw the sense of wasting natural resources the future generations might need more than us when we have the options now if he’s in renewables. Yes the climate involves naturally but to deny that at least some of the Warming that’s happened since the 1800s hasn’t been caused by man is laughable.
 

Humble Village Farmer

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BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
A bit like farm subsidies then?
So, I should get on that plane and visit as many tropical islands now before they are submerged?

There is nothing I can do about it. There's nothing the UK can do about it. You're a long time dead and tbh I'm going to enjoy it while I'm here.
I would suspect that they have been working on a vaccine for longer than 12 months, in all certainty years well before the emergence of Covid 19, probably as far back as SARS.
Of course you are right, apparently they are rehearsing for the next pandemic all the time. But it's true to say that almost nothing was known about cv19 12 months ago.
 
I think the Oxford vaccine trial is Based on previou vaccine work including SARS
It shows the benefits of gene editing which the EU bans due to Monsanto Frankenstein tomatoes where they introduced Artic Flounder genes to confer frost resistance but ended up with Salmonella tomatoes.
Our Brexit will mean exponential advances, like this vaccine, in Agriculture.
How long before we have blight resistant potatoes?
Back to the climate change, Norwegian king sent cattle on longships to new grazing grounds. They called it Groenland we call it Greenland!!!!
 
When the snowflakes tell me I travel around the world too much causing pollution I tell them that when they only use their phones for two hours a day I will travel by bike. By the end of this decade 20% of all power consumed will be by phones! That's why they are asking people not to download films in HD.
I noticed that when watching football after O2 upped their signal to 4G.
Data useage went berserk. I now use my phone as a router and watch on the Samsung Pad and certainly don't notice any difference in the reduced quality.
 
Which multinationals are getting financial benefit from climate change as you claim?
Lets start with the ones who own the windmills we all so heavily subsidise.
California planning brown outs (nae Leccy) just wait till that happens here which was very close a month ago due to cold weather and no wind.
Biggest proponent of global warming Al Gore, biggest pile of piffle I ever done see. Look at all the people connected to him who made millions out of carbon credits. UK civil service/government is now nearly as bad as African banana republics. Backhanders everywhere you look.
 

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