hay making

bobk

Member
Location
stafford
Horse people only want the best, I drove up to 600 miles a day last year looking for it visiting sometimes 20 farms a day, you risk your trade on the fact that you may get a,weeks warm weather in July, haveing Saif that there are some that make magical fingers when making hay and always get it right,

I buy all the best stuff in , but it's dwarfed by my reasonably priced farmers hay by 100 to 1 , you're right they want the best but at a price .
 

Grassman

Member
Location
Derbyshire
I have a lovely stack of top quality haylage from last year and it's basically unsellable.
I have about run out of anything that is or resembles hay. Hardly anyone round here wants good haylage nowadays. The job has changed.
 

bobk

Member
Location
stafford
I have a lovely stack of top quality haylage from last year and it's basically unsellable.
I have about run out of anything that is or resembles hay. Hardly anyone round here wants good haylage nowadays. The job has changed.

I've got loads of customers back to hay, the girl with 1 horse can't shift a bale quick enough, plus there's some right shite floating around , not yours of course :)
 

jemski

Member
Location
Dorset
I have a lovely stack of top quality haylage from last year and it's basically unsellable.
I have about run out of anything that is or resembles hay. Hardly anyone round here wants good haylage nowadays. The job has changed.

For horse people, that has been a huge amount of information put out there about gastric ulcers in horses in the last few years, with a lot of horses being scoped, and ulcers found in many cases. The ulcers can cause many behavioural issues and are very expensive to treat. Haylage is thought to increase ulcers, so there has been a mass move back to hay from haylage.
 

bobk

Member
Location
stafford
For horse people, that has been a huge amount of information put out there about gastric ulcers in horses in the last few years, with a lot of horses being scoped, and ulcers found in many cases. The ulcers can cause many behavioural issues and are very expensive to treat. Haylage is thought to increase ulcers, so there has been a mass move back to hay from haylage.

Not surprised , there's some rocket fuel haylage being sold to horses presently , totally unsuitable for their diet.
 

Grassman

Member
Location
Derbyshire
For horse people, that has been a huge amount of information put out there about gastric ulcers in horses in the last few years, with a lot of horses being scoped, and ulcers found in many cases. The ulcers can cause many behavioural issues and are very expensive to treat. Haylage is thought to increase ulcers, so there has been a mass move back to hay from haylage.
Interesting information that. I will do a bit of investigation
 

kneedeep

Member
Location
S W Lancashire
that baler wouldnt be long in a 5 acre field ! i do maybe 1500 bales to sell for extra pocket money to horse folk et, really need to get flat eight set up going, carting them is the killer, or rather loading but grab will sort that, going to be having a deacent size tedder very soon, last year i done it all in the evenings after milking but sod that im having a week off this time
Wen I were a lad
(seems like a bloody long time ago ) the pain of making small bale hay diluted through the winter, taking 3 quid a bale .
When my Dad was the age I am now I was 24 and keen as mustard....
I'd bale, till 5pm, everything had to be on trailers by night.
Me on the 135 ,flat eighting him stacking.
Then home and up elevator in morning. .....
If anyone would even dare to suggest I handball 1500 bales now.......




They would need to be a tenner apiece, and I'd still moan till Christmas.
 

Grassman

Member
Location
Derbyshire
Wen I were a lad
(seems like a bloody long time ago ) the pain of making small bale hay diluted through the winter, taking 3 quid a bale .
When my Dad was the age I am now I was 24 and keen as mustard....
I'd bale, till 5pm, everything had to be on trailers by night.
Me on the 135 ,flat eighting him stacking.
Then home and up elevator in morning. .....
If anyone would even dare to suggest I handball 1500 bales now.......




They would need to be a tenner apiece, and I'd still moan till Christmas.
Trouble is that hay and haylage hasn't kept up with inflation.
I was getting a similar price to now 20 years ago.
But now rent and fertiliser and other costs are nowhere near half keeping up.
 

Pan mixer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Near Colchester
Yes it is the hauling that takes the time and then stacking in the barn
I have done 4000 or so so far in flat 8s, shortish journey so I squeeze them all in with a Browns 56 and stand them about in empty cattle yards, straw barns and the (slightly incomplete) grain store.

Then I use this thing......
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It works very well but you have no idea what is in front of you when you are driving round the yard.
 

multi power

Member
Location
pembrokeshire
Horse people only want the best, I drove up to 600 miles a day last year looking for it visiting sometimes 20 farms a day, you risk your trade on the fact that you may get a weeks warm weather in July, haveing said that there are some that have magical fingers when making hay and always get it right,
Derrick if you wanted the best hay you only had to ask. I have some in the shed
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
I have done 4000 or so so far in flat 8s, shortish journey so I squeeze them all in with a Browns 56 and stand them about in empty cattle yards, straw barns and the (slightly incomplete) grain store.

Then I use this thing......View attachment 175038 It works very well but you have no idea what is in front of you when you are driving round the yard.
keep looking for one at a sensible price or build one myself
 

multi power

Member
Location
pembrokeshire
Wen I were a lad
(seems like a bloody long time ago ) the pain of making small bale hay diluted through the winter, taking 3 quid a bale .
When my Dad was the age I am now I was 24 and keen as mustard....
I'd bale, till 5pm, everything had to be on trailers by night.
Me on the 135 ,flat eighting him stacking.
Then home and up elevator in morning. .....
If anyone would even dare to suggest I handball 1500 bales now.......




They would need to be a tenner apiece, and I'd still moan till Christmas.
I need to get some more cheap trailers. Flat eight them on n park in shed n unload some other day.
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
Is it a browns 40 bale carrier? I know where one is I think
No looks like a cherry one to me, the browns one has sides on which tend to drag the bales down if you place it too close to the heap next to it, the cherry types have just two bars which grab the long side of two rows so dont foul the short ends of the cross bales, trouble is they were over three grand when I looked at one
 

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