Health and safety

[Tarw Coch]

Whats wrong with the wiper?

Don’t know, haven’t a clue.

 

[roscoe erf]

Bet that gets you in trouble, cant say farmers wife, that's sexist

always in the sh!t its just the depth varies

 

[bumkin]

Would have been safer standing in a telehandler bucket then......

i think the fact that he fell from a ladder indicates he was on his own with no one to foot the ladder so the loader bucket would be out as there would be no one to operate it, i can imagine the scene the old boy though that needs cleaning that's something i can do, and there he was on his own up a ladder. i must say i find it difficult to find people with the time and inclination i remember cleaning the gutters on our old house it was a three storey house and i don't like heights so i asked someone to hold the ladder so there i am at the top trying to reach a birds nest and just reached too far and the ladder slipped clinging on to the ladder heart palpitating i look down and there was no one at the bottom they were at the other side of the garden weeding

 

[TheTallGuy]

Not with livestock, or knackered machinery for 15 hr shifts
Procedures are just tosh when a cow has got you pinned down or you are trying to fix a baler in the dark with rain coming.

I can't comment on the livestock, but the knackered machinery part - the unpopular answer is properly maintain the equipment & don't undertake such work when fatigued, or in conditions thst are inappropriate for the work! I know that there's pressure with rain coming, but is 8t worth risking serious injury or dearh

i think the fact that he fell from a ladder indicates he was on his own with no one to foot the ladder so the loader bucket would be out as there would be no one to operate it, i can imagine the scene the old boy though that needs cleaning that's something i can do, and there he was on his own up a ladder. i must say i find it difficult to find people with the time and inclination i remember cleaning the gutters on our old house it was a three storey house and i don't like heights so i asked someone to hold the ladder so there i am at the top trying to reach a birds nest and just reached too far and the ladder slipped clinging on to the ladder heart palpitating i look down and there was no one at the bottom they were at the other side of the garden weeding

In most circumstances footing a ladder is a no-no - if you can’t stabilise a ladder properly then it's probably not the right tool for the job!

 

[neilo]

I can't comment on the livestock, but the knackered machinery part - the unpopular answer is properly maintain the equipment & don't undertake such work when fatigued, or in conditions thst are inappropriate for the work! I know that there's pressure with rain coming, but is 8t worth risking serious injury or dearh
!

Absolutely. The safest procedure would undoubtedly be to stop working when you’re a bit tired, regardless of the hay/straw that’s down, with storm clouds approaching......

Desk based H&S policy at it’s best.

 

[thesilentone]

................Neil O, you really have a deep wound life by your escapades with the HSE and the fines you incurred.

The above post quite clearly says ' knackered ' so of course the right action is to rest (irrespective of the impending weather) because accidents occur when you are exhausted.(my interpretation of knackered)

You try to ridicule this by inferring as if it is some silly H&S box ticking, and change the thrust of the post away from knackered to a ' bit tired ' which it does not infer.

For the benefit of yourself and others, could I suggest you bury the hatchet, put your experience behind you and move on.

 

[TheTallGuy]

Absolutely. The safest procedure would undoubtedly be to stop working when you’re a bit tired, regardless of the hay/straw that’s down, with storm clouds approaching......

Desk based H&S policy at it’s best.

Maybe it is desk based, but sometimes you do have to take a step back & get a more dispassionate view of things. Would you rather loose a harvest or loose a limb/life?

It's under those conditions that dangerous mistakes are most likely to be made - tired, rushing to "get it done" & generally under pressure. Don't forget that it's something that will also affect your loved ones too!

 

[Farmer Roy]

 

[bumkin]

I can't comment on the livestock, but the knackered machinery part - the unpopular answer is properly maintain the equipment & don't undertake such work when fatigued, or in conditions thst are inappropriate for the work! I know that there's pressure with rain coming, but is 8t worth risking serious injury or dearh

In most circumstances footing a ladder is a no-no - if you can’t stabilise a ladder properly then it's probably not the right tool for the job!

 

[neilo]

................Neil O, you really have a deep wound life by your escapades with the HSE and the fines you incurred.

The above post quite clearly says ' knackered ' so of course the right action is to rest (irrespective of the impending weather) because accidents occur when you are exhausted.(my interpretation of knackered)

You try to ridicule this by inferring as if it is some silly H&S box ticking, and change the thrust of the post away from knackered to a ' bit tired ' which it does not infer.

For the benefit of yourself and others, could I suggest you bury the hatchet, put your experience behind you and move on.

I wasn't fined, he found next to nothing wrong here, other than wanting me to spend 2 days learning how to do what I've been doing for years. If there had been any issues of importance, I would have a different take on the visit, no doubt.

My point was that if we all stopped when we were knackered, we wouldn't get a lot done sometimes. Sometimes you have to push on.