Cogent Collars would work with seg gate.
Heat Detection Systems
- Thread starter skylane
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Imported direct from NZ
Holsteinfriesian90
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- Cornwall
Why have blues become so popular? I do have a soft spot for them but some people say they are hard to finish. A calf buyer said 90% of the calves in local market were blues.
Grassman247
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Not sure how your doing that and who is setting it up but LIC will not sell any gates into the uk anymore, chief executive deemed it non profitable.
Not through LIC, but currently is it going in due to cow flow exiting the shed, manual works well enough here on 200 cows without freeze brands, but possible to but numbers on collars if it becomes a issue
AA they didn't want at all back in the autumn. Granted, even the good stuff takes a hefty knock in valuation
Chimera
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I'm having the same debate with myself daily, currently on rms, fairly happy but reliefs are causing a 'mare.
Cost wise on our current straws/pregnancy rate. The heat detection element is costing about £8k/year!
But.. a heat detection system would be approx £40k (400 cows) over 5 years is £8k/yr, so unless we see improved preg rates and/or go diy we won't see a direct financial benefit.
I suppose the question is would a system pick up more heats than a dude walking around with chalk once a day?
(We have an interesting range of cows from pure holstein hatracks to dumpy fat jerseys and crossbreds. Nearly all the missed heats are in the holsteins)
Cost wise on our current straws/pregnancy rate. The heat detection element is costing about £8k/year!
But.. a heat detection system would be approx £40k (400 cows) over 5 years is £8k/yr, so unless we see improved preg rates and/or go diy we won't see a direct financial benefit.
I suppose the question is would a system pick up more heats than a dude walking around with chalk once a day?
(We have an interesting range of cows from pure holstein hatracks to dumpy fat jerseys and crossbreds. Nearly all the missed heats are in the holsteins)
frederick
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- south west
Looked up after milking today day 23 of service
74% nrr on 159 sexed straws used on cows serving tad.
69%nrr on heifers served to observed heat just oad.
74% nrr on 159 sexed straws used on cows serving tad.
69%nrr on heifers served to observed heat just oad.
There would be the added cost to factor in of someone to oversee the heat detection system and pick out cows for AI as well surely
Chimera
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- North Wales
Yes, we have a seg gate, but data would need entering and cows waiting for AI chap. With RMS we currently need to do nothing.
That’s what I was getting at. I’ve worked with both systems. With RMS you shouldn’t need to have too much input. Going heat detection system and inseminator is fine but will require more input on farm which is fine if there’s capable people available but there is some kind of cost there
If it’s such a small income for you you wouldn’t mind sending it to me then
Come get them all incalf in 9 weeks and take the calves on at 1hour old and weve a deal.If it’s such a small income for you you wouldn’t mind sending it to me then
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Now,now just cos every dirty buggers brought covid to your Manor, don't start sending yer mongrels up norf
What were your results in the end and how did it compare to the previous season?
frederick
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- south west
66% conception rate to sexed.
56% to triple blue.
So we successfully served the most fertile to sexed.
Have you reduced your MT rate overall as well?
frederick
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- south west
We finished up 14% empty after 10weeks including barrens. We will calve all we need in 7weeks.
We have then chosen 10 of those empties to serve again as with cow manager heat detection is no effort and they are probably worth more in calf than empty. I just wanted to keep them empty a bit longer so they could remain in milk whilst my cows are dry