Hedges for EFA

[Steevo]

Like many are probably planning to do this year, I'm swapping from claiming beans as my EFA, to using hedges instead. I will still grow beans...and continue to spray them. In short therefore, nothing will change in the short term other than the paperwork.

I'd be interested to hear from anyone who used hedges for EFA last year. How does it work "claiming" them please?

 

[Hindsight]

Like many are probably planning to do this year, I'm swapping from claiming beans as my EFA, to using hedges instead. I will still grow beans...and continue to spray them. In short therefore, nothing will change in the short term other than the paperwork.

I'd be interested to hear from anyone who used hedges for EFA last year. How does it work "claiming" them please?

Just check each hedge is eligible and then measure up - use google earth so simple, knock off 10% to give margin of error in cse of inspection. Claim both sides if appropriate. Spend a little longer on the application for entering the lengths on the data entry page as it will take a few minutes more than previous entering your beans and then job done. The hedges will come back prepopulated on the 2019 form - that is assuming there is BPS in 2019!! Spreadsheet behind the application interface does the calculation and hey ho submit. Job done. Easy peasy.

Just thought I should say - am here assuming the hedges will gain you all the EFA required. May not in which case you will have to add in some other features. Best of luck.

 

[Steevo]

Do you need to plot them on a map? Or hedgerow length per field in a box?

21km of hedge length here, 8ha EFA needed.

 

[Hindsight]

Do you need to plot them on a map? Or hedgerow length per field in a box?

21km of hedge length here, 8ha EFA needed.

No maps required. Just enter onto the BP5 application form online next April/May. 21 km one side = 10.5 hectare. If any hedges count as double sided will / can claim the other side again for0.5 ha EFA per 1000 metres. All clearly explained in the 2017 BPS guidance.

Think I am correct - but check yourself with RPA or a proper professional as I am just a bloke on the internet.

Best wishes.

 

[Steevo]

No maps required. Just enter onto the BP5 application form online next April/May. 21 km one side = 10.5 hectare. If any hedges count as double sided will / can claim the other side again for0.5 ha EFA per 1000 metres. All clearly explained in the 2017 BPS guidance.

Think I am correct - but check yourself with RPA or a proper professional as I am just a bloke on the internet.

Best wishes.

Oh I see, so it's literally just one line on the form! That's rather more simple than I had expected.

 

[5020man]

Hi.

No.

One line per field.

5020 man.

 

[farmerm]

The BPS land use page this year now includes a list of EFA eligble hedges.... tick the hedges button and hover the mouse over each hedge to match the hedges on the map with the lengths in the table...

 

[theboytheboy]

Anyone else finding the hedges info is not available on their portal?

 

[yellow belly]

Anyone else finding the hedges info is not available on their portal?

I looked this morning and no hedge information from rpa but all the lengths I put in last week are there so quite relived they have not buggerd up the work done putting them in

a friend who had hedges for efa last year had no problems with the system

shame all the extra bean area used over the last few years buggered the bean market and has lead to an increase in bruchid

 

[Rob Holmes]

I changed from beans to hedges in last year BPS, no problem whatsoever.

Used Google Earth to measure, then reduced the length by 10% to cover inaccuracy, but included more hedges than we need to cover ourselves

 

[yellow belly]

now had a closer look and found the hedge information on the system

looks a bit more complicated as some fields have 10 or more measured sections of hedge should we now lable each hedge length on the application or continue with one line for the whole hedge

the whole length is easier but is they automatically check hedge lengths against the system will the system be able to combine the hedge measurements they have and set it against one length entered on the application
just want to make it easy for the rpa when they check or else all next years payments will be late is every field that has one length of hedge entered on the application triggers a manual check to combine the 10 section they have entered on the rlr system

now read the 2018 guidance and it does not make it clear what to do regarding individual hedge lengths

 

[Dman2]

We are also planning on using hedges for the first time this year
Just had a look on rpa website at our hedges and quite a bit of the hedge information is wrong.
Is there a way to rectify this online??

Cheers

 

[yellow belly]

We are also planning on using hedges for the first time this year
Just had a look on rpa website at our hedges and quite a bit of the hedge information is wrong.
Is there a way to rectify this online??

Cheers

think I read in the guidance that change had to be done by rle1 but not certain needs checking before doing anything
I have one whole block that has no hedge information rle1 needed or not
will look at using buffer strips if rle1s needed because if they get inundated with rle1s then they will be very late paying farmers

 

[DRC]

now had a closer look and found the hedge information on the system

looks a bit more complicated as some fields have 10 or more measured sections of hedge should we now lable each hedge length on the application or continue with one line for the whole hedge

the whole length is easier but is they automatically check hedge lengths against the system will the system be able to combine the hedge measurements they have and set it against one length entered on the application
just want to make it easy for the rpa when they check or else all next years payments will be late is every field that has one length of hedge entered on the application triggers a manual check to combine the 10 section they have entered on the rlr system

now read the 2018 guidance and it does not make it clear what to do regarding individual hedge lengths

I thought the same. They've even missed off some of the hedges on certain fields. Why oh why do they have to bugger around with things every year.

 

[yellow belly]

I changed from beans to hedges in last year BPS, no problem whatsoever.

Used Google Earth to measure, then reduced the length by 10% to cover inaccuracy, but included more hedges than we need to cover ourselves

that would have worked for 2017 but will 2018 need the lengths they have put on the system or will it trigger a manual check and a delayed payment
if they check using their lengths and we use their lengths they will be able to do automatic checks then only if they do an inspection will they manually measure the length

 

[yellow belly]

I thought the same. They've even missed off some of the hedges on certain fields. Why oh why do they have to bugger around with things every year.

if this new system has automatic checking of hedges against the rlr length it could speed things up but we need to know how to enter each hedge length to make their job easier and get paid on December 1 2018
if they had prepopulated the hedge information on the rlr on to the application it would have been best but that may have crashed the system like happened the first year of the bps

 

[DRC]

if this new system has automatic checking of hedges against the rlr length it could speed things up but we need to know how to enter each hedge length to make their job easier and get paid on December 1 2018
if they had prepopulated the hedge information on the rlr on to the application it would have been best but that may have crashed the system like happened the first year of the bps

Mines prepopulated with the hedge measurements I used last year, bar the field that's completely missing. Need to sit down and see if their measurements in any way match up to mine .

 

[Rob Holmes]

I assumed their pre-populated lengths would have been what I entered last year?

 

[farmerm]

now had a closer look and found the hedge information on the system

looks a bit more complicated as some fields have 10 or more measured sections of hedge should we now lable each hedge length on the application or continue with one line for the whole hedge

the whole length is easier but is they automatically check hedge lengths against the system will the system be able to combine the hedge measurements they have and set it against one length entered on the application
just want to make it easy for the rpa when they check or else all next years payments will be late is every field that has one length of hedge entered on the application triggers a manual check to combine the 10 section they have entered on the rlr system

now read the 2018 guidance and it does not make it clear what to do regarding individual hedge lengths

I did mine as seperate entities on my draft today.. it appears that on the final BPS form it is populated with the totals for each field regardless if you enter each bit on a different line or if you add them up yourself.

 

[yellow belly]

I did mine as seperate entities on my draft today.. it appears that on the final BPS form it is populated with the totals for each field regardless if you enter each bit on a different line or if you add them up yourself.

If that is how it works then just putting the total on the application will be easy