Help! Can't get cattle out of field. (Tried everything)

DRC

Member
You really don't understand do you.
You really don't understand do you.
You keep missing the point about how anyone of that age can possibly be strong enough, and fit enough [stone deaf according to his Son], to manage cattle in a safe and professional manner, as he can't even get his stock in for their required TB test.
I'm not denying that having some contact with animals in old age, or in care homes, would not have a good benefit to people, as has been proven by schemes that give a few hens to OAP's, or the fact that having a dog or cat is a great benefit in old age. This is completely different than running a farm, when you can't cope.
Don't know why your so angry with me for having a different opinion than yourself:scratchhead:
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
Undoubtably it hits some farmers hard when they have no one who wants to carry on, and they stick their heads in the sand and don't make plans to step back.
Farming is a professional occupation, and it sounds like there's welfare issues here, that haven't been addressed if the cattle haven't been out of the field in 4 yrs. The OP did say they were inbreeding and were growing horns.
Have they been tagged and do the calves have passports.
Who gives a toss if they have passports, all that crap should have been binned when bse was found to be a load of nonsense.
I heard of another old chap not too far away who had over a hundred huge bullocks shot that didnt have paperwork, just a criminal waste.
 

DRC

Member
Who gives a toss if they have passports, all that crap should have been binned when bse was found to be a load of nonsense.
I heard of another old chap not too far away who had over a hundred huge bullocks shot that didnt have paperwork, just a criminal waste.
Not disagreeing with you, but i bet the old chap wished they had passports, when he realised how much money he'd lost, all for the sake of a bit of paperwork. So i don't really understand the point your trying to make. Are you saying it doesn't matter in this case?
 

caveman

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Location
East Sussex.
Took some cattle to mart last week and brought some back home unsold.
Doing the movements online, do you think it would let me enter them off and back on in the same session?
Would it feck.
 

hillman

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Location
Wicklow Ireland
Not saying it doesnt matter, but all this paper tripe has to be stopped.
we are the only country on earth where cattle need a passport!!!!
yet humans come here here from all over and stay as long as they like, get benefits etc and are never tested for tb etc.

Explain your passport system?
We have card s with breed , herdno , dam no , dates off test and dates off movement and new herds details , had it for years , and before that a more straightforward card so bit off a throwaway statement that your only country
 

Supergirl

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Shropshire SY5
Took some cattle to mart last week and brought some back home unsold.
Doing the movements online, do you think it would let me enter them off and back on in the same session?
Would it feck.

You can do off/on movements for the same day but you can't if they aren't on the same day - drives me nuts for show movements for two or more day shows.

If you want to know how, I'll give you the info :)
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
Explain your passport system?
We have card s with breed , herdno , dam no , dates off test and dates off movement and new herds details , had it for years , and before that a more straightforward card so bit off a throwaway statement that your only country
what happens if you lose the card?
 

caveman

Member
Location
East Sussex.
You can do off/on movements for the same day but you can't if they aren't on the same day - drives me nuts for show movements for two or more day shows.

If you want to know how, I'll give you the info :)
Awwww. Thanks for the offer chick.
Don't really matter though. Don't care if notification is late.
It's just a fag to get all the paperwork out and sign in again!
 

bobk

Member
Location
stafford
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I meant it was a bit OTT that you seem to think that i'm some sort of playboy, constantly on holiday, lying on the beach all day, and that i want some sort of police state.
If more farmers developed outside interests, other than farming, then they would be more prepared for the inevitable slowing down. After all, would you be happy that a surgeon was still operating on you at 86, or an airline pilot still flying planes at 86.
No. you wouldn't, but for some reason it's ok to deal with large, potentially dangerous animals, when your that age.
Your quote mentions being well enough and fit enough to enjoy it, which is obviously a problem for the OP's Dad. It's all about knowing when to pack it in, before putting yourself or others at risk.

I'd be happy with a tag like that :D

My old chap is a similar age to yours and also walks up to the farm every morning , only to see what's going on , he's no intention of doing anything though .
Then he'll walk back home and out to lunch with his mates, and put the world to rights .
 

DRC

Member
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I'd be happy with a tag like that :D

My old chap is a similar age to yours and also walks up to the farm every morning , only to see what's going on , he's no intention of doing anything though .
Then he'll walk back home and out to lunch with his mates, and put the world to rights .
I think your the forum jet setter, always in the south of France on your Yacht, and your not a real farmer if you don't stay at home seven days a week tending your cattle, until the day you die. No passion for the job!
 

mtx.jag

Member
Location
pembs
Marks man,a good silencer,night vision scope and a fleet of teleporters to clear the bodys befor the sun comes up and all the commuters get upset ftom the poor dead cows...im not being funny,but sumbosy will get hurt trying to load cattle into a lorry after 4years of free range..imo..
 
You keep missing the point about how anyone of that age can possibly be strong enough, and fit enough [stone deaf according to his Son], to manage cattle in a safe and professional manner, as he can't even get his stock in for their required TB test.
I'm not denying that having some contact with animals in old age, or in care homes, would not have a good benefit to people, as has been proven by schemes that give a few hens to OAP's, or the fact that having a dog or cat is a great benefit in old age. This is completely different than running a farm, when you can't cope.
Don't know why your so angry with me for having a different opinion than yourself:scratchhead:
Angry because you said people should not be ALLOWED to keep cattle, this is a free country, so tell me some one who can't afford a combine and a chopper for their corn and maize, should they be stopped from growing it. Just remember your dad and others on here have the pleasure of walking up the yard and seeing their sons taking on the business and hope fully growing it. Some people have built a business, their off spring aren't interested(free country) and its very hard to let go, they probably live in hope of them returning. Just read your post again, we're batting for two different sides. I suppose your going to tell me that BILL MUSTOE as a professional should have been retired at 65, and not allowed to run First Milk until into his seventies, don't think he got the job till he was nearly seventy, bloody good bloke. Thinking about it he didn't run it by himself he had help, so in your eyes should have been retired. No in your eyes he'd be a senile old fool with no rights.
 

DRC

Member
Angry because you said people should not be ALLOWED to keep cattle, this is a free country, so tell me some one who can't afford a combine and a chopper for their corn and maize, should they be stopped from growing it. Just remember your dad and others on here have the pleasure of walking up the yard and seeing their sons taking on the business and hope fully growing it. Some people have built a business, their off spring aren't interested(free country) and its very hard to let go, they probably live in hope of them returning. Just read your post again, we're batting for two different sides. I suppose your going to tell me that BILL MUSTOE as a professional should have been retired at 65, and not allowed to run First Milk until into his seventies, don't think he got the job till he was nearly seventy, bloody good bloke. Thinking about it he didn't run it by himself he had help, so in your eyes should have been retired. No in your eyes he'd be a senile old fool with no rights.
People can keep cattle as long as they want to, as long as they're capable. I didn't put any age limits on my argument. It's usually a stubborn bloody minedness that gets people in the situation that the OPs Dad finds himself, with the inevitable consequences that someone is likely to get hurt sorting it out. Already two cars have been written off, plus the message it will send out to Jo public, if they have to be shot in the field.
I'm not trying to stop anyone, but you seem to think anyone of any age should just carry on regardless.
There's plenty of other things you can do as you get older.
 

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