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Helping Refugees Thread
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Supposing I had never in my life donated towards aid in black countries, is your logic that I should definitely not help in this situation either, that it would be morally wrong? Get a grip.
Id like to keep this thread on point, to share ways in which we can help in this particular crisis, so take your bs accusations of racism elsewhere.
Start a petition to enable Ukrainian refugees to settle here, I have no objection to that. It will take years to rebuild there country, Russia will make sure of that. We have donated a fair bit, they need shelter and security to make any credible difference.
My sister in law has volunteered and has travelled to provide medical help, we could let a few thousand come over, especially families with young children.
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What’s stopping you from starting this petition? You’re all over the place here, like I said, get a grip. If you've nothing helpful to add do everyone a favour and keep quiet.
Princess Pooper
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There is a large Polish community locally and all the local schools are collaborating on collecting donations of 'stuff' - eg one collecting simple medical items (bandages, antiseptic creams, women's sanitary items etc), another collecting food, another, food etc. There are lorries taking it out to Poland for distribution this Friday. Lots of similar initiatives all round the country, I am donating some stuff (blankets etc) and buying some medical bits, candles etc (there is a list) which will be sent via a Ukranian Catholic Church Community in Peterborough.
Disasters Emergency Committee has launched an appeal, which can be gift aided and the Govt will also match.
www.dec.org.uk
Disasters Emergency Committee has launched an appeal, which can be gift aided and the Govt will also match.
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DEC charities are using the £158 million donated by the UK public to provide vital aid to hundreds of thousands of people, helping them on the long road to recovery.
Princess Pooper
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By the same argument, if you give to British Heart Foundation, should you feel guilty because you don't give to Cancer Research? Or is that Cancerist? No one can help everyone and anyone who is charitable - in whatever way, should not feel guilty.
betweenthelines
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There is a large Polish community locally and all the local schools are collaborating on collecting donations of 'stuff' - eg one collecting simple medical items (bandages, antiseptic creams, women's sanitary items etc), another collecting food, another, food etc. There are lorries taking it out to Poland for distribution this Friday. Lots of similar initiatives all round the country, I am donating some stuff (blankets etc) and buying some medical bits, candles etc (there is a list) which will be sent via a Ukranian Catholic Church Community in Peterborough.
Disasters Emergency Committee has launched an appeal, which can be gift aided and the Govt will also match.
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DEC charities are using the £158 million donated by the UK public to provide vital aid to hundreds of thousands of people, helping them on the long road to recovery.
Very commendable but aren't the Poles refusing to let people of colour in?
betweenthelines
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Monthly Direct Debit to a group supporting refugees from the Middle East plus most of the family work for organisations and charities that help those less fortunate.
My original post was spurred by the difference between threads on here supporting Ukrainian refugees and others condemning refugees crossing the English Channel.
The UK has far more moral responsibility to support refugees from the Middle East as our historical interference in that region is a large part of their current problems
My original post was spurred by the difference between threads on here supporting Ukrainian refugees and others condemning refugees crossing the English Channel.
The UK has far more moral responsibility to support refugees from the Middle East as our historical interference in that region is a large part of their current problems
I think many of us spread our donations, because there are so many charities asking for money all the time. I was involved with a UK charity and so I get news letters from,https://www.thirdsector.co.uk/royal-charity-defends-itself-questions-salaries-top-staff/management/article/1747727?bulletin=governance-bulletin&utm_medium=EMAIL&utm_campaign=eNews Bulletin&utm_source=20220224&utm_content=Third Sector Governance Bulletin (15)::www_thirdsector_co_uk_art_2&email_hash= , and before I donate anything I often look at how the money is spent because some have large reserves. Charities are very often big business and I think people are wary, but also I have seen a lot of people give hours and hours during covid, stood our in sun and often rain, because they could see their efforts were having some effect.
I think the difference is with Ukraine that many companies and communities have links with that area, so its a lot easier to donate things, and not cash that you send to that area, cutting out the 'middleman' much as possible. We have a large industrial estate and lorry park about a mile away, and a lot of the staff come from Eastern Europe. I do not think people are donating because the population is mainly white, but because they think they can actually make a difference. You give money, you get an email back, and that's it, you have no control on how it is spent.
I have tried donating meat, and home goods to local charities and it not as easy as you think. Meat being donated was straight from the local butcher, with full traceability, you would have thought I was offering them smack.
Our local Emmaus,https://emmaus.org.uk/, seems to recycle everything possible, and well as providing skills and friendship.
I used to donate to the BHF, but I did some sorting work in one of the shops, and the the amount of perfectly usable clothing that went for rags, at 50p/kg, because they could/would not sell it in the shop, made me stop. Local school uniform, because it had a logo, went in the rags.
I think the difference is with Ukraine that many companies and communities have links with that area, so its a lot easier to donate things, and not cash that you send to that area, cutting out the 'middleman' much as possible. We have a large industrial estate and lorry park about a mile away, and a lot of the staff come from Eastern Europe. I do not think people are donating because the population is mainly white, but because they think they can actually make a difference. You give money, you get an email back, and that's it, you have no control on how it is spent.
I have tried donating meat, and home goods to local charities and it not as easy as you think. Meat being donated was straight from the local butcher, with full traceability, you would have thought I was offering them smack.
Our local Emmaus,https://emmaus.org.uk/, seems to recycle everything possible, and well as providing skills and friendship.
I used to donate to the BHF, but I did some sorting work in one of the shops, and the the amount of perfectly usable clothing that went for rags, at 50p/kg, because they could/would not sell it in the shop, made me stop. Local school uniform, because it had a logo, went in the rags.
Princess Pooper
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I have no idea, but should that stop me from sending anything? I did similar for Afghan refugees, does that pass your inspection? Anything else you would like to vet? I've been Trustee of a couple of charities, is that OK or should I support all charities to make it fair?
Exfarmer
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it is a very confusing situation out there, the Ukrainians are not allowing men of fighting age to leave and there may be resistance for allowing people of colour in without the correct paperwork.
Both are insisting women and children first
please do not automatically think it is racism
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One thing is for sure, the situation is dire, and will only get worse.
There is no doubt, Moldova will be next, so all the Ukrainians who have fled their, added to the misplaced Moldovans is going to escalate this to monumental numbers.
There is no doubt, Moldova will be next, so all the Ukrainians who have fled their, added to the misplaced Moldovans is going to escalate this to monumental numbers.
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One local who is organising wagons to Ukraine is asking if anyone has fuel cans to send fuel and let the wagons get back.
Ideal opportunity for farmers and machinery dealers to send some empty 20 litre and 200 litre oil drums to a better use?
Ideal opportunity for farmers and machinery dealers to send some empty 20 litre and 200 litre oil drums to a better use?
From what I’ve seen they also help themselves!!
we're putting together stuff to drop off at a collection centre got some boxes of medical things like wound dressings etc from a warehouse clearance what else would be suitable mrs says pasta etc maybe tins, like baked beans etc simple to heat etc??
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Princess Pooper
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Our local collection centres are now just taking medical stuff & nappies at present, but including small scissors, wound creams (gemolene, savlon), paracetamol, also calpol for children, sanitary items, foot creams / lotions etc (all that walking). In my consignment that has now gone, I had also sent also soaps, shampoo, toothpaste, toothbrushes, plus some dried food, cereal bars, cupasoups, those pasta things that are one step up from a cupasoup - lightweight, long life and just need boiling water.