CopperBeech
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- A Welsh man lost in England
Just been told it’s going up in a couple of weeks - up by 40% which makes a 500ml bottle about £247 before the vat!
Hep-p prices
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M-J-G
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I know several who have stopped vaccinating for clostridials, one about 10 years ago, he says it'd made no difference to overall mortality.
I've not stopped yet but I'm thinking about it.
If you need it you need it.
Did your source tell you why it's going up so dramatically?
I've not stopped yet but I'm thinking about it.
If you need it you need it.
Did your source tell you why it's going up so dramatically?
CopperBeech
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- A Welsh man lost in England
I got told by an sqp at mole valley today, didn’t give a reason just said that’s what the manufacturer said.
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- Cheshire
All I would suggest is that before dropping clostridial vaccine altogether, try Bravoxin 10. Fraction of the price but doesn’t cover Pasturella. Although I’m a bit sceptical of the cover for it that Hept-P gives…
exmoor dave
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We did exactly that, changed to bravoxin 10, likewise very sceptical of the pasturella cover of hep P.... but in the years since, I guess as the older ewes who had hepP earlier in their lives, left the flock, our ewe losses kept up quite badly, last spring was especially bad, so we've gone back to hep P,
Record all deaths anyway and always have so will give it a few years and see if we see a big improvement worth the cost.
Glad we got back on the system jast year with the course of 2 jabs rather than this year
- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
I was told the manufacturer was short, can't remember why, I think the plant that bottles it is in Belgium or Holland and maybe it's made over here?
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- Near Colchester
I tried not using hep P in one half of my flock of 150 ewes last year - result almost 40 extra dead lambs (at 4-8 weeks) than usual.
Am using it this year in all of them.
Am using it this year in all of them.
CopperBeech
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- A Welsh man lost in England
That new price would make it £1 a dose wouldn’t it. Mad.
- Location
- Cheshire
What did you use instead?
£179+vat I’m paying for 500ml bottles i bought when I put my yearly order in with ACT… I don’t struggle with pasturella it’s always pulpy Kidney that kills stuff here everytime Iv tried not vaccinating lambs at 4-6weeks and started having random deaths it’s been pulpy kidney , does Bravoxin cover that?
muleman
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I remember we once forgot to do with covexin, or ran out of time, cant remember which, a batch of mule ewes pre lambing.
Never thought owt about it till lambs were about 7 or 8 weeks old and this batch big fit thrifty lambs were keeling over with pulpey kidney, would lose 20 or 30.
Shows the stuff does work.
- Location
- Cheshire
It does. I do all our lambs with their first Bravoxin at first worming. Usually late May. Then the timing of the second one usually fits in nicely with shearing. Covered through the summer then, booster jab at weaning and into the winter we go. If I miss a bunch in May you can guarantee the best 2 will drop too pulpy kidney in early June!!
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And at £24-£29 per 100ml (100 doses) it’s cheap as chips!
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- Near Colchester
I was making a saving by not doing them - there was a timing and logistical difficulty as well and I wasn't feling too well at the time either.
It was always something I was never in a rush too do… “leave it as long as I can and then I won’t have to give them a booster because they’ll be dead by time they need it” was my old saying… until I checked sheep one morning and was 10 big healthy lambs dead…took 2 too vets for a post mortem, cut them up there and then pulpy kidney… drove too wynstayy got ovivac… drove too the field and was another 7 dead
Next morning 12 more dead and then no more dead unexpectedly
- Location
- Cheshire
Use Ovivac P on bought in stores. Vet recommended it as a good idea. I used it on my home bred lambs too last year and had that little pasturella disaster at Christmas time with the hopper lambs indoors. So I’m thinking it might be as well too just Bravoxin everything and save the extra I spend on Ovivac P for buying alamycin if a bunch start?
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- Montgomeryshire
Not particularly on topic on a vaccine thread, but my vet prescribed Depocillin the last time we had a pasteurella outbreak (in vaccinated ewe lambs
). It worked as well as Alamycin had previously, but MUCH cheaper.
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- Scot Borders
Just bought Ovivac and Hep ti double jag all lambs. Paying£174 fir 500ml hep. Going up to £225 after 1st April
M-J-G
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Heard today from a drug rep that if any retailers buying new stock now, it will be costing them an extra 20%, assuming it can be sourced, because it's very hard to get.
He also said that the Pasturella cover is very limited in Hep-P, really just a couple of weeks. He suggested it wasn't worth the extra cost over and above covexin of bravoxin.
He also said that the Pasturella cover is very limited in Hep-P, really just a couple of weeks. He suggested it wasn't worth the extra cost over and above covexin of bravoxin.
- Location
- Near Colchester
But if you are already on the Hep P plus scheme you have to keep going?
ritchiekirkland
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No, pretty sure you can just move onto Bravoxin or Covexin as you are only dropping the P amd not the clostridial parts . If you wanted to go back to Heptavac tough you would have to start again . That’s my understanding after speaking to rep anyway .