Heptavac P

[Al R]

I think it’s a good bit dearer than £175 since the April 1st hike isn’t it?

Up 45% I think? I ordered everything available local to me the day before

 

[neilo]

Up 45% I think? I ordered everything available local to me the day before

Same here. Everything in stock that I need.

They’d priced themselves out of my adult ewes before this, but my hoggets won’t be getting Heptavac from now on either. Unconvinced of the value of the P component already, and this price hike has certainly decided it.

 

[yellowbelly]

It would be nice if there was some competition that covered pasturella, but, as with Toxovax and Enzovax, it's a feckin monopoly and they've got us over a barrel ☹

 

[haztanllan]

Agreed. I dropped Heptavac P in adult sheep after 2 pasteurella outbreaks in vaccinated groups, which only stopped when I went through with blanket antibiotics. Both times, PM’s (paid for by the vaccine company) showed they had been hit by a strain not covered by the vaccine anyway!

My vet and I suspect that the bigger issue was a TE deficiency problem, leading to poorer immunity making them more susceptible. It’s been less of an issue since getting on top of that, but whether that’s just a coincidence…..

Had this problem last year had to blanket treat everything with oxytet only to be found resistant and had to go in with trymox.
Do you bother with vaccinating lambs? vet tried telling us to do 2 jabs at weaning then another in august as we seem to have an outbreak in september 2 times now.
also found a trace element deficiency in the ewes and seem to be lacking in iodine and selenium and marginally low in everything else. How are the ewes coming on since not jabbing with heptavac p with you? still seems nuts to me that balnket treating with antibiotics cost less than vaccinating??

 

[neilo]

Had this problem last year had to blanket treat everything with oxytet only to be found resistant and had to go in with trymox.
Do you bother with vaccinating lambs? vet tried telling us to do 2 jabs at weaning then another in august as we seem to have an outbreak in september 2 times now.
also found a trace element deficiency in the ewes and seem to be lacking in iodine and selenium and marginally low in everything else. How are the ewes coming on since not jabbing with heptavac p with you? still seems nuts to me that balnket treating with antibiotics cost less than vaccinating??

Yes, I am still (currently) vaccinating lambs with Ovivac P, and just done my pedigree ram lambs with a booster as lost a couple with pasteurella recently. I was just going to use Bravoxin for the commercial lambs, but that was hard to get too and the imported product my vet could get hold of was the same price as Ovivac.

The last outbreak I had was in replacement ewe lambs in the Autumn, when I Iost 10 (out of 120) before we could get on top of it. My vet recommended Depocillin that time, as it was much cheaper than the Oxytet that we had use previously (which has shot up in price with them). It seemed to work anyway.

We were struggling to get on top of Iodine deficiency at that time too, and my vet and I wondered if that could have supressed their immunity? Ewes are no different for not having Heptavac P, as Bravoxin is still covering the clostridial diseases. I'd not be brave enough to stop covering them, just the P.