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icanshootwell

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In todays " Daily Telegraph" Lewis Hamilton has been interviewed and stated the following : Agriculture & farming is the largest pollutant we currently have by over 50%. He then goes on to say that eating meat has been a lie which has continued for hundreds of years.
Make of his ramblings what you will,I disagree 100% with his comments.
Another celebrity not worth listen to. I expect he,s been converted by his mrs. :whistle:
 
Thanks. Based on estimates in America only and no mention of food transport emissions, as per usual. Of which the UK would undoubtedly be importing a lot more food from the americas.

Nah fudge em- ban the importation of vegan products that are not home produced. Lets save the planet for real. Of course soya, almonds and avocados dont grow in the UK so they will all be crying in their broccolli milk before long.
 
Doesn’t answer his argument though. Anyone who speaks on climate change is bound to be hypocritical because everyone lives within an unsustainable system. Calling us hypocrites doesn’t invalidate our arguments it’s just another bout of name calling.

That is not true, we discuss climate on TFF a lot, but most of us recognise that it is a very broad issue and needs a holistic approach. Banning livestock farming entirely nor driving a battery car or installing a solar panel is hardly a definite solution considering the huge scale of human activities today.

A man whose living is earned in Formula 1 where they burn fossil fuels for profit is in no position to lecture anyone on the merits of a vegan diet because of it's climate change benefits.
 
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melted welly

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Arable Farmer
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DD9.

Wait a minute...........are those LEATHER BOOTS complimenting that otherwise dazzling brave new look. I just love how the kilt plays off against the Rupert the bear waistcoat, and the 1980s skinhead style shawl, WOW, that really completes the ensemble.

And as for the shirt, OMG, is that made of real thrupney bits and buttons??

Hope he’s also been reading up on the environmental credentials of disposable fashion.
 

abitdaft

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Scotland
I watched a government select committee today on beef prices and was gratified that UK beef carbon footprint was two percent lower that anywhere else ( perhaps in the EU, but potentially the rest of the world, not sure ) , if that is the case, even just for the EU, why aren't we shouting it from the rooftops? Grass fed, sustainable, carbon capturing, environmental, landscape, historical, etc......................there really is a platform to promote red meat, so why is it not happening from the big players, ie the processors and retailers? They are the ones with the clout especially the supermarkets?

For anyone that would like to watch the committee
https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/022950d2-f6fd-4995-b128-b5619b226f98
 

fudge

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire.
That is not true, we discuss climate on TFF a lot, but most of us recognise that it is a very broad issue and needs a holistic approach. Banning livestock farming entirely nor driving a battery car or installing a solar panel is hardly a definite solution considering the huge scale of human activities today.

A man whose living is earned in Formula 1 where they burn fossil fuels for profit is in position to lecture anyone on the merits of a vegan diet because of it's climate change benefits.
Why not? Hamilton is entitled to express his opinion. F1 doesn’t produce as many emissions as the fertilizer industry for example. All industries have an impact on climate change. Disqualifing individuals from the debate because of their occupation stops us all discussing climate change. Maybe that’s what those who oppose action on the environment want?
 
Why not? Hamilton is entitled to express his opinion. F1 doesn’t produce as many emissions as the fertilizer industry for example. All industries have an impact on climate change. Disqualifing individuals from the debate because of their occupation stops us all discussing climate change. Maybe that’s what those who oppose action on the environment want?

Anyone publicly posting that meat eating is a lie that has been perpetuated for hundreds of years hardly qualifies them into a grown up debate, does it?
 

Raider112

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Why not? Hamilton is entitled to express his opinion. F1 doesn’t produce as many emissions as the fertilizer industry for example. All industries have an impact on climate change. Disqualifing individuals from the debate because of their occupation stops us all discussing climate change. Maybe that’s what those who oppose action on the environment want?
The fertiliser industry is a hell of a lot bigger industry than formula 1 though. Doesn't change the fact that anyone involved in formula 1 is probably in the top 1% polluters worldwide.
 

britt

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Why not? Hamilton is entitled to express his opinion. F1 doesn’t produce as many emissions as the fertilizer industry for example. All industries have an impact on climate change. Disqualifing individuals from the debate because of their occupation stops us all discussing climate change. Maybe that’s what those who oppose action on the environment want?
EVERYBODY NEEDS food, NOBODY NEEDS F1 or for that matter AIR TRAVEL.




I mentioned this story to the kids and they burst out laughing, social media is full of this story and virtually all of it is pointing out his hypocissy.
It seems that he has done a good job in pointing out how people, particularly celebrities and the very wealthy, pick out the points that suit them and ignore reality.
 

fudge

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire.
Would the fertiliser industry not have to increase size massively if the world is going to be fed on vegan crops only?
EVERYBODY NEEDS food, NOBODY NEEDS F1 or for that matter AIR TRAVEL.




I mentioned this story to the kids and they burst out laughing, social media is full of this story and virtually all of it is pointing out his hypocissy.
It seems that he has done a good job in pointing out how people, particularly celebrities and the very wealthy, pick out the points that suit them and ignore reality.
The fertiliser industry is a hell of a lot bigger industry than formula 1 though. Doesn't change the fact that anyone involved in formula 1 is probably in the top 1% polluters worldwide.
The fertilizer industry doesn’t need fossil fuel. The human race needs to find a way of fixing nitrogen that is driven by a different source of energy. It’s a perfectly soluble problem. The reason there is no action on climate change is because we allow vested interests to protect their interests rather than insisting on change.

Billionaires will never do it they think they are insulated from climate change by wealth, which they imo.
 

thesilentone

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cumbria
Why not? Hamilton is entitled to express his opinion. F1 doesn’t produce as many emissions as the fertilizer industry for example. All industries have an impact on climate change. Disqualifing individuals from the debate because of their occupation stops us all discussing climate change. Maybe that’s what those who oppose action on the environment want?


Hamilton chose to stick his head above the parapet with what he knew was a controversial statement. Anyone who is thinking of ' giving up ' would normally be classed as suicidal. His comments about 'no one cares ' begs the question does he ?

Apart from his own personal carbon footprint, what about the F1 roadshow that ups-sticks and moves around the World almost on a weekly basis, trucks, planes, cars, food, energy, fuel, spectator travel, emissions, food, energy etc, etc, etc..........

Not a great example of trying to save the planet, and I didn't read anywhere him suggesting we all walk to the local footy stadium, rather than sit in front of our flat-screen watching sky TV and the F1 World Championship !

Maybe Mr Hamilton has his own future and career to promote, and maybe his ultimate goal of driving for Ferrari is blocked, and maybe he will look to alternatives like the e series.

Unless he has a personal objective, the Tweet makes no sense, as somehow I can't see him jumping off the nearest bridge, however if he does, and only in the interest of engineering, can I have his road car :)
 

thesilentone

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cumbria
The fertilizer industry doesn’t need fossil fuel. The human race needs to find a way of fixing nitrogen that is driven by a different source of energy. It’s a perfectly soluble problem. The reason there is no action on climate change is because we allow vested interests to protect their interests rather than insisting on change.

Billionaires will never do it they think they are insulated from climate change by wealth, which they imo.


I agree, the world population will continue to grow, and humans will consume the planets resources, and this will destroy the plant, its inevitable. All we can do is try and slow the process down, however lets start by looking after what we already have. Ban plastic production, there is enough already out there, that if re-cycled will keep us for generations. In fact, if re-cycled again and again, you could class it as sustainable.........
 

essexpete

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Location
Essex
Why not? Hamilton is entitled to express his opinion. F1 doesn’t produce as many emissions as the fertilizer industry for example. All industries have an impact on climate change. Disqualifing individuals from the debate because of their occupation stops us all discussing climate change. Maybe that’s what those who oppose action on the environment want?
Not quite the same as fertilisers help to produce food for a population heading towards 8 billion. Formula 1 just burns fossil fuel for alleged thrills.
On the other hand has modern farming allowed/sustained high population growth. I am confused.
 

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