high houred fendt

[oli]

Am i mad looking at buying a fendt 936 with just over 10k hours on the clock as opposed to say a newholland t8 with same hours?

 

[oli]

personally, if I was to buy a high hour FWA linkage tractor in the 250 hp range, my only choice would be a Genesis, a Case 7140 or a JD 8400. All bullet proof tractors that will easily run to over 10,000 hrs here


or a Cat 55 ( basically a Genesis on tracks & a Cat engine ) if I wanted tracks

Well probably 350 plus hp to pull 8 meter carrier ect on fairly heavy going

 

[mtx.jag]

Also been looking at claas and cat challenger 75's although it's totally different there quite a few places seem to like and run them as cheap tillage machines around here again all very High houred!

How much is a new 936,how much is a used one? Worst case scenario have you got £30k you can sit on incase the engine and vario go?

 

[Farmer Roy]

Well probably 350 plus hp to pull 8 meter carrier ect on fairly heavy going

we’re using 250 - 300 hp to pull 12 m on heavy black soil, but admittedly it’s all flat & using zero till planters, not much tillage

 

[oli]

I found a couple for 45k and a new one I'm guessing has to be around 140kish although just spied a xerion 3800 7k hours for 50k with claas fully rebuilt engine...

How much is a new 936,how much is a used one? Worst case scenario have you got £30k you can sit on incase the engine and vario go?

 

[oli]

we’re using 250 - 300 hp to pull 12 m on heavy black soil, but admittedly it’s all flat & using zero till planters, not much tillage

Thats good going it's the hills that kills it really around here! Just to be on top of the job

 

[oli]

Well probably 350 plus hp to pull 8 meter carrier ect on fairly heavy going

Just not sure if a 55 would handle 8 meter gear alright there about 220-250hp arnt they? Obviously there tracks so will pull like he'll for there size

 

[Boysground]

Talking to one of the dealers I use yesterday about the supply of tractors, he has so much demand for secondhand I came away thinking new is probably easier to get!

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[Farmer Roy]

Just not sure if a 55 would handle 8 meter gear alright there about 220-250hp arnt they? Obviously there tracks so will pull like he'll for there size

dunno what a “carrier” is, but here on our heavy black soil plains a 55 would have been expected to easily cope with 8 m or wider tillage gear - tynes & offset discs. Neighbours were running 2 x 55’s back in the day, doing all their irrigation ( including “hilling up” 1 m furrows for flood irrigation ) & row crop work on 8 m & their dryland work pulling 10 m Gyral Agboss ( a pretty heavy duty tyned cultivator / planter ) & 10 m Grizzly offset discs, another fairly high draught ( by our standards anyway ) machine

 

[Speedstar]

I found a couple for 45k and a new one I'm guessing has to be around 140kish although just spied a xerion 3800 7k hours for 50k with claas fully rebuilt engine...

At 45k they are not expensive a new one will be up around the 200k mark , older 936 had MAN engines, lots still working hard with more than 10k hours on them , may need a few bits & bobs but i would not walk away from one with them hours

 

[Mark C]

I found a couple for 45k and a new one I'm guessing has to be around 140kish although just spied a xerion 3800 7k hours for 50k with claas fully rebuilt engine...

Depending on where you are located. I'd get Dave Baverstock at PHR in Essex to do an appraisal on it. They are Fendt specialists and have a wealth of knowedge pre dating AGCO involvement

 

[kiwi pom]

Anything over 10,000 hours is probably going to need some workshop time, even if its not a major component like a transmission, niggly faults can be hard and expensive to diagnose. So who's going to be working on whatever you buy? If you're using a main dealer which one do you have the most confidence in? If using an indy get whatever they suggest. I'd sort that bit out before you decide what brand you're buying.

 

[Farmer Roy]

How much is a new 300 hp tractor there ?

my t8040 cost $330,000 in 2009. New equivalents are nearer $500k now

what’s the exchange rate, about 1.6 or 1.7 ?

 

[David.]

Isn't it said that you can put a new transmission in a CNH for a quarter the price of an AGCO?

 

[oli]

dunno what a “carrier” is, but here on our heavy black soil plains a 55 would have been expected to easily cope with 8 m or wider tillage gear - tynes & offset discs. Neighbours were running 2 x 55’s back in the day, doing all their irrigation ( including “hilling up” 1 m furrows for flood irrigation ) & row crop work on 8 m & their dryland work pulling 10 m Gyral Agboss ( a pretty heavy duty tyned cultivator / planter ) & 10 m Grizzly offset discs, another fairly high draught ( by our standards anyway ) machine

Sound like they have some good pull about them that does sound pretty intense! When I say carrier I mean a vaderstad carrier 8.2m

dunno what a “carrier” is, but here on our heavy black soil plains a 55 would have been expected to easily cope with 8 m or wider tillage gear - tynes & offset discs. Neighbours were running 2 x 55’s back in the day, doing all their irrigation ( including “hilling up” 1 m furrows for flood irrigation ) & row crop work on 8 m & their dryland work pulling 10 m Gyral Agboss ( a pretty heavy duty tyned cultivator / planter ) & 10 m Grizzly offset discs, another fairly high draught ( by our standards anyway ) machine

Sound like they have some good pull about them that does sound pretty intense! When I say carrier I mean a vaderstad carrier 8.2m its 2 rows of discs and a steel packer but they seem quite Hungary with hp

 

[oli]

At 45k they are not expensive a new one will be up around the 200k mark , older 936 had MAN engines, lots still working hard with more than 10k hours on them , may need a few bits & bobs but i would not walk away from one with them hours

Didn't realise the old ones had man engines in them I think very highly of man engines in wagons anyway

 

[oli]

Anything over 10,000 hours is probably going to need some workshop time, even if its not a major component like a transmission, niggly faults can be hard and expensive to diagnose. So who's going to be working on whatever you buy? If you're using a main dealer which one do you have the most confidence in? If using an indy get whatever they suggest. I'd sort that bit out before you decide what brand you're buying.

To be fair around us rickerbys claas have really looked after us over the years and claas have payed up for problems when the tractor has had 5k hours on it I do wonder weather a 3800 xerion is worth a serious look

 

[oli]

Isn't it said that you can put a new transmission in a CNH for a quarter the price of an AGCO?

Not sure but it wouldn't surprise me

 

[oli]

Depending on where you are located. I'd get Dave Baverstock at PHR in Essex to do an appraisal on it. They are Fendt specialists and have a wealth of knowedge pre dating AGCO involvement

We're up in the North East newcaslte upon Tyne area machines over seas seem like a lot of headaches

 

[David.]

Not sure but it wouldn't surprise me

Maybe worth checking?

 

[Farmer_Joe]

If rickerbys on you door and you can get some sort of concrete warranty( and you have a good relationship with them) I would try the class, at then hours unless you have a good independent your gonna need the dealer, that would be a big factor in my purchase