Well probably 350 plus hp to pull 8 meter carrier ect on fairly heavy goingpersonally, if I was to buy a high hour FWA linkage tractor in the 250 hp range, my only choice would be a Genesis, a Case 7140 or a JD 8400. All bullet proof tractors that will easily run to over 10,000 hrs here
or a Cat 55 ( basically a Genesis on tracks & a Cat engine ) if I wanted tracks
How much is a new 936,how much is a used one? Worst case scenario have you got £30k you can sit on incase the engine and vario go?Also been looking at claas and cat challenger 75's although it's totally different there quite a few places seem to like and run them as cheap tillage machines around here again all very High houred!
Well probably 350 plus hp to pull 8 meter carrier ect on fairly heavy going
How much is a new 936,how much is a used one? Worst case scenario have you got £30k you can sit on incase the engine and vario go?
Thats good going it's the hills that kills it really around here! Just to be on top of the jobwe’re using 250 - 300 hp to pull 12 m on heavy black soil, but admittedly it’s all flat & using zero till planters, not much tillage
Just not sure if a 55 would handle 8 meter gear alright there about 220-250hp arnt they? Obviously there tracks so will pull like he'll for there size
At 45k they are not expensive a new one will be up around the 200k mark , older 936 had MAN engines, lots still working hard with more than 10k hours on them , may need a few bits & bobs but i would not walk away from one with them hoursI found a couple for 45k and a new one I'm guessing has to be around 140kish although just spied a xerion 3800 7k hours for 50k with claas fully rebuilt engine...
Depending on where you are located. I'd get Dave Baverstock at PHR in Essex to do an appraisal on it. They are Fendt specialists and have a wealth of knowedge pre dating AGCO involvementI found a couple for 45k and a new one I'm guessing has to be around 140kish although just spied a xerion 3800 7k hours for 50k with claas fully rebuilt engine...
Sound like they have some good pull about them that does sound pretty intense! When I say carrier I mean a vaderstad carrier 8.2mdunno what a “carrier” is, but here on our heavy black soil plains a 55 would have been expected to easily cope with 8 m or wider tillage gear - tynes & offset discs. Neighbours were running 2 x 55’s back in the day, doing all their irrigation ( including “hilling up” 1 m furrows for flood irrigation ) & row crop work on 8 m & their dryland work pulling 10 m Gyral Agboss ( a pretty heavy duty tyned cultivator / planter ) & 10 m Grizzly offset discs, another fairly high draught ( by our standards anyway ) machine
Sound like they have some good pull about them that does sound pretty intense! When I say carrier I mean a vaderstad carrier 8.2m its 2 rows of discs and a steel packer but they seem quite Hungary with hpdunno what a “carrier” is, but here on our heavy black soil plains a 55 would have been expected to easily cope with 8 m or wider tillage gear - tynes & offset discs. Neighbours were running 2 x 55’s back in the day, doing all their irrigation ( including “hilling up” 1 m furrows for flood irrigation ) & row crop work on 8 m & their dryland work pulling 10 m Gyral Agboss ( a pretty heavy duty tyned cultivator / planter ) & 10 m Grizzly offset discs, another fairly high draught ( by our standards anyway ) machine
Didn't realise the old ones had man engines in them I think very highly of man engines in wagons anywayAt 45k they are not expensive a new one will be up around the 200k mark , older 936 had MAN engines, lots still working hard with more than 10k hours on them , may need a few bits & bobs but i would not walk away from one with them hours
To be fair around us rickerbys claas have really looked after us over the years and claas have payed up for problems when the tractor has had 5k hours on it I do wonder weather a 3800 xerion is worth a serious lookAnything over 10,000 hours is probably going to need some workshop time, even if its not a major component like a transmission, niggly faults can be hard and expensive to diagnose. So who's going to be working on whatever you buy? If you're using a main dealer which one do you have the most confidence in? If using an indy get whatever they suggest. I'd sort that bit out before you decide what brand you're buying.
Not sure but it wouldn't surprise meIsn't it said that you can put a new transmission in a CNH for a quarter the price of an AGCO?
We're up in the North East newcaslte upon Tyne area machines over seas seem like a lot of headachesDepending on where you are located. I'd get Dave Baverstock at PHR in Essex to do an appraisal on it. They are Fendt specialists and have a wealth of knowedge pre dating AGCO involvement