Higher food prices...

[le bon paysan]

Called for by the new German Agriculture minister.

German Agriculture Minister Calls for Higher Food Prices

www.bloomberg.com

 

[Bald Rick]

Don’t think he needs to call for it … it’s almost inevitable when on farm costs have risen by at least 20% over last few months and output prices are slowly rising to match.

Wage demands will follow and so we will enter a period of high inflationary pressures

 

[le bon paysan]

Don’t think he needs to call for it … it’s almost inevitable when on farm costs have risen by at least 20% over last few months and output prices are slowly rising to match.

Wage demands will follow and so we will enter a period of high inflationary pressures

I thought it interesting why he was calling for higher prices. So farmers could afford higher welfare standards for their livestock and could look after the land and environment while having a decent standard of living.
Germans already pay more for food than comparable countries.

 

[ollie989898]

I thought it interesting why he was calling for higher prices. So farmers could afford higher welfare standards for their livestock and could look after the land and environment while having a decent standard of living.
Germans already pay more for food than comparable countries.

Taxation on certain things in Germany is also intense. I understand they pay about 35 cents a unit for electricity?

 

[le bon paysan]

Taxation on certain things in Germany is also intense. I understand they pay about 35 cents a unit for electricity?

Yikes!

Electricity prices by country 2023 | Statista

The cheapest electricity in the world could be found in Iran in 2023, whereas the cost of residential electricity per kilowatt-hour was highest in Europe.

www.statista.com

 

[Bald Rick]

I thought it interesting why he was calling for higher prices. So farmers could afford higher welfare standards for their livestock and could look after the land and environment while having a decent standard of living.
Germans already pay more for food than comparable countries.

It’s a central tenet of most governments to keep food as cheap as possible. With most of the price power residing with a handful of supermarkets, to date cheap food has been possible but maybe the worm is finally turning? It should, in theory, lead to less food waste

 

[le bon paysan]

It’s a central tenet of most governments to keep food as cheap as possible. With most of the price power residing with a handful of supermarkets, to date cheap food has been possible but maybe the worm is finally turning? It should, in theory, lead to less food waste

In this German coalition government the Ag. minister is from the Green party. Nice he's saying this not calling for rewilding and farmers aren't needed.

 

[czechmate]

In this German coalition government the Ag. minister is from the Green party. Nice he's saying this not calling for rewilding and farmers aren't needed.

Maybe he has got wind of the looming azote crisis

 

[yellow belly]

Called for by the new German Agriculture minister.

German Agriculture Minister Calls for Higher Food Prices

www.bloomberg.com

Germanys biggest problem going forward is energy security and the cost of gas
russia has control of their gas supply

 

[Hindsight]

Germanys biggest problem going forward is energy security and the cost of gas
russia has control of their gas supply

Ain't gonna be pretty in UK when the energy cap gets lifted next spring. I see the government and energy suppliers are desperately trying to engineer a softer landing for the general public. Dropping VAT, Removing green levies and taxes. All of which would be straight from the Treasury, so a direct subsidy dressed up.

 

[Chae1]

Ain't gonna be pretty in UK when the energy cap gets lifted next spring. I see the government and energy suppliers are desperately trying to engineer a softer landing for the general public. Dropping VAT, Removing green levies and taxes. All of which would be straight from the Treasury, so a direct subsidy dressed up.

2022 is going to be interesting.....

 

[caveman]

2022 is going to be interesting.....

Get your wood burner fitted.
Amazon will keep you warm with all their packaging.

 

[Swarfmonkey]

Taxation on certain things in Germany is also intense. I understand they pay about 35 cents a unit for electricity?

Dunno what it's like for domestic users, but I do know that near as dammit half the cost of electricity in Germany for industrial users is tax.

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Ain't gonna be pretty in UK when the energy cap gets lifted next spring. I see the government and energy suppliers are desperately trying to engineer a softer landing for the general public. Dropping VAT, Removing green levies and taxes. All of which would be straight from the Treasury, so a direct subsidy dressed up.

I don't have an electricity contract and pay the spot price every month. The reason for that is that one meter only averages one unit per month, isolated set of farm buildings.
The other is the house and the hydro keeps the usage down very low most of the year.
October bill quoted a unit price of 26p. December bill quoted 34p.

 

[Hindsight]

Qoute from todays The Times:

“In 1993, VAT on household energy bills was imposed. This makes gas and electricity much more expensive. EU rules mean we cannot take VAT off those bills,” Johnson wrote in May 2016 in a joint article with Michael Gove, now levelling-up secretary, and Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston, the then Labour MP. “When we Vote Leave we will be able to scrap this unfair and damaging tax. It isn’t right that unelected bureaucrats in Brussels impose taxes on the poorest and elected British politicians can do nothing.”

Now Mr Johnson has taken back control he seems to have forgotten his promises. How odd. He does seem to have a very transient and malleable memory. Ah well.

 

[will l]

Qoute from todays The Times:

“In 1993, VAT on household energy bills was imposed. This makes gas and electricity much more expensive. EU rules mean we cannot take VAT off those bills,” Johnson wrote in May 2016 in a joint article with Michael Gove, now levelling-up secretary, and Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston, the then Labour MP. “When we Vote Leave we will be able to scrap this unfair and damaging tax. It isn’t right that unelected bureaucrats in Brussels impose taxes on the poorest and elected British politicians can do nothing.”

Now Mr Johnson has taken back control he seems to have forgotten his promises. How odd. He does seem to have a very transient and malleable memory. Ah well.

Is It seriously this bad

New Brexit rules: Four hours to fill a form to bring in oranges from Spain | ITV News

Companies in the ITV Anglia region say new customs controls are causing delays and could lead to problems with supply. | ITV News Anglia

www.itv.com

 

[le bon paysan]

Is It seriously this bad

New Brexit rules: Four hours to fill a form to bring in oranges from Spain | ITV News

Companies in the ITV Anglia region say new customs controls are causing delays and could lead to problems with supply. | ITV News Anglia

www.itv.com

Yes, the UK system isn't functioning, so instead of computer downloading or scanning forms in each form has to be typed in from scratch.

 

[BrianV]

Yes, the UK system isn't functioning, so instead of computer downloading or scanning forms in each form has to be typed in from scratch.

Somethings not working alright but it might just be the EU sellers that will be catching a cold, maybe fruit from other non EU countries will fill the gap being left on the shelves & UK buyers will be forced to buy more British produce, wouldn't that be a result!

 

[will l]

Somethings not working alright but it might just be the EU sellers that will be catching a cold, maybe fruit from other non EU countries will fill the gap being left on the shelves & UK buyers will be forced to buy more British produce, wouldn't that be a result!

Oranges ?

 

[BrianV]

Oranges ?

Don't tell me Spain is the only place in the world producing oranges? Plastic yes oranges no!