Highways England Compound Rental

[teslacoils]

Dont forget, you want access upgrading to highways spec wide enough for in and out at the same time. If your lucky, they will leave you a nice industrial park with services, etc and an established non ag use. Winner winner, chicken dinner.

 

[Steevo]

Dont forget, you want access upgrading to highways spec wide enough for in and out at the same time. If your lucky, they will leave you a nice industrial park with services, etc and an established non ag use. Winner winner, chicken dinner.

I'm unsure they would be happy to let it be consider an established use.

Agree on the access front though!

 

[teslacoils]

I'm presuming they will secure the site with palisade fencing or similar which would require planning permission. Would be mad to remove it after!

 

[Steevo]

I'm presuming they will secure the site with palisade fencing or similar which would require planning permission. Would be mad to remove it after!

I'd hazard a guess it would be Heras temporary fencing.

Any planning permission would surely require the area to be returned to agriculture after?

 

[teslacoils]

Perhaps. But that wouldn't deter much!

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Will they deal with the planning application for the change of use?

 

[Still Farming]

£200 a week small area?

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

In 1978 Herts Highways had a compound here in our yard for 2 years while the road was dualled. We were only tenants. They erected a large barn for us (we already had it in kit form) on a highway grade concrete base that they provided, put in a new (short) concrete farm drive and left us their hard base where their offices had been along with their new electricity supply and water system.

Get an agent!

 

[Bongodog]

I'd hazard a guess it would be Heras temporary fencing.

Any planning permission would surely require the area to be returned to agriculture after?

Highways England have temporarily taken lots of land for site compounds, topsoil storage & borrowpits in Cambridgeshire for the A14 project, not a heras panel in sight, lots of post and rail or chain link fence though.

 

[Compshire Farmer]

Definitely get an land agent and get proper legal agreement drawn up so everything is in black and white regards terms, costs, reinstatement etc etc. £7/acre way too cheap!!

 

[Compshire Farmer]

And get them to pay all legal/agents fees.

 

[curlietailz]

And get them to pay all legal/agents fees.

never talk to anyone without them agreeing to pay your legal/professional fees

we once had a film director turn up wanting to use an old house we have as a film set. He was dead interesting but I managed to mutter the immortal words “ you’ll need to talk to my agent “.

sadly the house wasn’t suitable but I thought the whole episode amusing

 

[S J H]

You may be able to haggle for the hardcore, after reinstatement if you have a need for it.

 

[Dry Rot]

Go to one of the bigger firms of land agents for this, they will have all the experts and probably the experience of this particular type of job, if not the people involved.

 

[Nearly]

£7 an acre won't cover the budget for teabags!
Two zero's after it might get your attention.

 

[suffolksmallholder]

If it as big as you hint then Knight Frank.

I was involved with several film companies over a number of years, providing space and locations. They were all geared up to be as efficient as possible, professional and exacting in their base set up and extremely couteous.
Yes there were legalities involved and these were 'normal' short lease with one particular 'extra', The Damage money cheque often amounting to a couple of thousand. Not much for six months but as the units were only in for a week or two this was in proportion to their time on the site. Redcaps ran a split unit with filming in one place and the wardrobe and food in another with minibusses moving crew and 'drivers' in their Merceded Benz limousines moving each star to their green rooms. Two separate leases but under one public liability.
I had Chucklevision in my house and several other properties with Paul and Barry doing their thing. Of course Midsomer Murders, Redcaps, Poirot, The Lost Prince, Goodbye Mr Chips, to name a few.
I was always on site as sometimes they needed things like loose straw to enable the immaculate Monsieur Poirot (David Suchet) to walk to the set without getting his shoes dirty, similar Mr Chips (Martin Clunes) to stop the food wagons area becoming a swamp. Rain is not a good thing when filming!
I rarely talked to the actors as I regarded this an intrusion on their days work. I just did mine and made sure the job went smoothly. This meant repeat visits a plenty and I got to know the Loc Managers quite well so they knew they could rely on me. But I'm digressing.

Bottom line is willingness to please but be very well rewarded for your efforts.
I did learn quite a lot from my Dad who managed to get Hammer Horror signed up on a lease for five years. Sadly not in Vincent Price or Christopher Lee's day mind.
SS

 

[RedTractor6761]

Regarding compulsory powers, the big companies will have lawyers already working on it in case you object. The court is not there to set a rent, just to enforce the use of the land.
Rental for a year should be around the value of the land

Thanks puppet, how do we determine the value of the land? Is it how much the land is worth to purchase? Is it how much it is worth to them as a main compound for works? Perhaps it is just how much rent I will be losing as a result of them occupying the land (very little)? This is where I'm at a loss. I don't know how to 'value the land' or justify it to them. Any ideas?

 

[Steevo]

Thanks puppet, how do we determine the value of the land? Is it how much the land is worth to purchase? Is it how much it is worth to them as a main compound for works? Perhaps it is just how much rent I will be losing as a result of them occupying the land (very little)? This is where I'm at a loss. I don't know how to 'value the land' or justify it to them. Any ideas?

Compulsory powers I would think they would argue loss of value to you, not inflated value to them. But the compulsory route has significant costs and hassles to it to, hence why they would I'm sure prefer to do a deal that made all parties happy. Probably costs the same in ££, but less hassle and everybody happy rather than shelling out to solicitors etc. and the money going to them and not the landowner.

Be careful regarding the "rent" that you wouldn't be in breach of an agreement or such arrangement and thus be liable to compensate a tenant for their loss.

How did your agent meeting/discussion go?

 

[RedTractor6761]

In 1978 Herts Highways had a compound here in our yard for 2 years while the road was dualled. We were only tenants. They erected a large barn for us (we already had it in kit form) on a highway grade concrete base that they provided, put in a new (short) concrete farm drive and left us their hard base where their offices had been along with their new electricity supply and water system.

Get an agent!

Hi holwellcourtfarm, I have got an agent acting on my behalf, although was not my first choice as they declined my first choice as they were apparently not 'reasonable' in their costs! So I had to find someone else... I'd love for them to leave me with something tangible that I can make use of, the council has been very hard on me since forever!

 

[RedTractor6761]

Compulsory powers I would think they would argue loss of value to you, not inflated value to them. But the compulsory route has significant costs and hassles to it to, hence why they would I'm sure prefer to do a deal that made all parties happy. Probably costs the same in ££, but less hassle and everybody happy rather than shelling out to solicitors etc. and the money going to them and not the landowner.

Be careful regarding the "rent" that you wouldn't be in breach of an agreement or such arrangement and thus be liable to compensate a tenant for their loss.

How did your agent meeting/discussion go?

Hi Steevo, the meeting didn't fill me with any confidence. I threw my toys out of the pram. The valuer mentioned the Neighbourhood Land Act or something like that which I'm not sure what that means, but my agent wanted to ask first why that was applied even though they have not got DCO powers yet?