Hill Cows

[Henarar]

A Stabiliser going through the ring at cutcombe you sir need to go straight to the naughty step


Been doing jab day of tb test at home today, oh I wish the hereford scheme was as good as the AA.... for the most part the hereford's (the vast majority of our home herd) have by and large been good as gold behaviour wise.

The Angus have been complete prats and there's not even that many of them..... one took a full 5mins to calm down in the crush just so the weigh head could get its weight

use to help someone with an angus herd, always said they planned it whereas limmys just done the first thing that come in to their head

 

[Zero Homes]

Galloway x Saler could be a little, ahem, 'spirited'?

Ours have been really good.. Lively maybe but reel survivors.. Plenty of gutts in them.. I mean you cant really walk up to them on the hill to scratch there belly's but i wouldn't want them like that. I dont touch them during Calving..Only pulled one in three years out of 65 sucklers...

 

[Weasel]

Our Ideal Suckler is a Galloway x Saler cow put to the Char or sim Bull. Small light cows,easy calving ,milky on hill pasture + Good Calf to sell...

Mental cows tho

 

[JP1]

Its just fashion, unbelievably adaptable breed, look how they turned them into belt buckle Angus and yet the Canadians turned them into black Holstein type Angus , they will adapt to anything you require given chance and time.

True

 

[Northeastfarmer]

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Snapped at a customer's today. They're crisscrossing Hereford and Angus to produce organic beef off pasture.
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They’re going to be doing well to produce it off that pasture...

 

[Cowgirl]

True

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Yes wasn't that amazing - wonder how they did it? Crossing with Holstein perhaps?

 

[Cowgirl]

Thought there would be more mention of Galloways on this thread...

 

[JP1]

Thought there would be more mention of Galloways on this thread...

Customer with continental cross cows on the hill near Rhayader and a Hereford stock bull bought a Riggit Galloway bull for heifer replacements as the Hereford cross heifers needed a bit more rigour. He's delighted with this year's heifer calves

 

[M-J-G]

Galloway x Saler could be a little, ahem, 'spirited'?

A vet who was involved in the FMD cull, told me that there was a herd of Galloway x Saler cows and a lot of them had to be shot out on the hill by a marksman with a high powered rifle from a long distance away.
Like deer stalking, was how they described it.

 

[sheepwise]

We sell nearly all our suckled (mainly limousin, some Angus, odd bb and simmental) calves as stores at 9-12 months of age. From our experience any limousin calf with a white face buyers will discount the price to a degree. One buyers explanation for this was he knew that it would most likely be out of a simmental cross cow or a Hereford cross cow and that the calf would not kill out as well as those out of an Angus or limousin breeding. He had bought them in the past from other sellers as he thought they were a good price for the size/shape/weight of animal, but they just didn't perform/ kill out as well as he thought they should have.
Those people with white faced cows (simmental, hereford, baldies) and selling calves as stores, do you find this? Not knocking the breeds or crosses of cows with white faces, just curious.

Know a man who fattens nearly 1000 heifers a year. Won't buy a pen of stores if there is even one white faced one in it.

 

[brigadoon]

Just out of interest how much cake would a cow eat every day? Its not cheap like it was years ago it must cost quite a lot to winter a cow like that now ive seen 4 or 5 kilos a day mentioned somewere thats a lot of cake. Is it a special cheap cow cske or something?

In our case they would eat as much as you give them.
Ours get 4 or 5 Kg a year

 

[brigadoon]

A vet who was involved in the FMD cull, told me that there was a herd of Galloway x Saler cows and a lot of them had to be shot out on the hill by a marksman with a high powered rifle from a long distance away.
Like deer stalking, was how they described it.

If it was anything like Galloway they would have been shot by a marksman after a bunch of guys in white paper overalls tried to round them up on quads

 

[M-J-G]

Just out of interest how much cake would a cow eat every day? Its not cheap like it was years ago it must cost quite a lot to winter a cow like that now ive seen 4 or 5 kilos a day mentioned somewere thats a lot of cake. Is it a special cheap cow cske or something?

Sometimes it works out easier than silage as some hill guys can feed rolls to cows on areas where feeding silage would cause more problems.

5kg x £200/T = £1
£18/bale silage ÷ 18 cows = £1

And the silage can be more labour intensive than feeding with a snacker.

 

[unlacedgecko]

They’re going to be doing well to produce it off that pasture...

It’s spring sown forage rape. It was planted with the intention of weaning lambs onto next month, but the drought has meant the cows have grazed itself past 6 weeks. There’s now feed trailers of silage in that field, just out of shot...

 

[Hilly]

Thought there would be more mention of Galloways on this thread...

Before they shrank them too belt buckle they were actuall quite big and they sold alot to Canada, then the fashion here came for belt buckle angus which in a lot of folks eyes ruined them so they went back to canada to get the originals back , which is a simple version but essentially what happen.

 

[hendrebc]

Anyone know of anyone keeping welsh blacks on a hill all winter? I know some who graze them in summer but none who outwinter them there but i dont know why. Theyve gotten a bit too showy to be much use as a cow someone told me but there must be some good ones left somewere

 

[unlacedgecko]

Anyone know of anyone keeping welsh blacks on a hill all winter? I know some who graze them in summer but none who outwinter them there but i dont know why. Theyve gotten a bit too showy to be much use as a cow someone told me but there must be some good ones left somewere

When I did my farm tour of Scotland there was a farm with 100 black cows. Everything, including young stock, was outwintered. The cows were originally Welsh black, but had been crossed with Angus for the last few years.

 

[Hilly]

When I did my farm tour of Scotland there was a farm with 100 black cows. Everything, including young stock, was outwintered. The cows were originally Welsh black, but had been crossed with Angus for the last few years.

My neighbour used to have about 100 wb but crossed out with an angus now.

 

[unlacedgecko]

My neighbour used to have about 100 wb but crossed out with an angus now.

A response to named site breed premiums perhaps?

 

[Hilly]

A response to named site breed premiums perhaps?

Well yes hes a business man that and the fact good wb became very tricky to find, and i add he tops the sale every time he sells that`s top more than charlies simmys etc etc