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neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Yes pay for each variety separately. BSPB did a DNA test 3 years ago and charged according to the new ratios of each variety. Got my own test done this year and unfortunately for BSPB the one variety that is now dominating the mix has been taken off the list. Only paid royalty on 45% of seed drilled this year.

Does that mean that a variety that is so old that it’s no longer on the list is out yielding newer, supposedly higher yielding, varieties in a real world situation?

Care to share the names of the varieties in your blend?
 

Simon C

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Arable Farmer
Location
Essex Coast
Does that mean that a variety that is so old that it’s no longer on the list is out yielding newer, supposedly higher yielding, varieties in a real world situation?

Care to share the names of the varieties in your blend?

Conqueror, it has always yielded way more than anything else in my trials, but that's on my farm, in my system. That's why it is taking over the blend.
 

BenAdamsAgri

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BASE UK Member
Location
Oxfordshire
Always thought these royalties seem a bit like,,You buy a car and then the seller demands that he can use it anytime he wants.
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So pretty much buying a ferrari
 

ih1455xl

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
northampton
One thing I could never work out with my nelson crusoe skyfall blend is why it was 15% protein yields were the same as the the straights average 10t/ha but they on have proteins of 12.5 / 13% normally with 200kg of N but one year it was from 150
 
Yes pay for each variety separately. BSPB did a DNA test 3 years ago and charged according to the new ratios of each variety. Got my own test done this year and unfortunately for BSPB the one variety that is now dominating the mix has been taken off the list. Only paid royalty on 45% of seed drilled this year.

You must be the only farmer in the country that’s told them your sowing a mixed variety.
 

robbie

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BASIS
Would it not be fairest, assuming the blend is of say 3 equal amounts of varieties to pay the area pro rata. Eg 30 ha of a blend pay 10 ha worth of royalties per variety. It seems very unfair to have to pay full royalties of 3 varieties you effectively be paying 90 ha worth.🤷

By the way for the sake of the seed police I haven't got any blends and don't intend to grow any!!!!!
 

Steevo

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Location
Gloucestershire
Would it not be fairest, assuming the blend is of say 3 equal amounts of varieties to pay the area pro rata. Eg 30 ha of a blend pay 10 ha worth of royalties per variety. It seems very unfair to have to pay full royalties of 3 varieties you effectively be paying 90 ha worth.🤷

By the way for the sake of the seed police I haven't got any blends and don't intend to grow any!!!!!

I assume he pays per tonne, so 9t of seed works out to be 3t of each variety almost as you describe.
 

Simon C

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Arable Farmer
Location
Essex Coast
I assume he pays per tonne, so 9t of seed works out to be 3t of each variety almost as you describe.
Not really, I pay by the hectare. So in this example I would pay 10 Ha to each variety.

But I have 4 varieties, so pay a percentage of the total area at the same % as in the blend. Something like 55%, 20%, 15% and 10% now as defined by DNA test. BSPBs bad luck that the dominant one is no longer on the list, so I only pay royalty on 45% of my wheat acreage.
 

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