Honda Quad or.....?

Hilti

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Argyll
We still have our old Suzuki 700, as a back up, OMG it is a beast compared to the Can Am, goes like a scalded cat!:)
Suzuki must be some machine as my 570 can am can scare the sh!t out of me with power & speed (touching 80mph) - also destroys a Kawasaki 700
Can am best bike I've had for up n down the hill , just gives you a nervousness turning on silly slopes sometimes - possibly unfair comparison as was only 420 cc Hondas previously

Suzuki's just don't float my boat even though there is a lot around here .
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Honda have definitely slipped back a bit on quality to the degree that they no longer deserve to carry a price premium over the other three Japanese brands.


That's the problem. Honda quads aren't Japanese, they're (IIRC) made in the USA, hence the quality issues.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
My Honda 420 is great. Can’t fault it. Totally basic manual transmission with the solid rear axle with centre strut suspension. It is made in the USA I think but pretty sure that the engine is made in Europe somewhere on mine. Petrol injection and the emissions stuff has actually made for a better water-cooled engine.
I like it. Try Dalton’s ATV’s. They certainly used to have large stocks and turn over large numbers of quads annually nationwide.
 

hally

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
Really?
We had a new 1 as a loan bike whilst our Can Am was in for service.
The whole family hated it and couldn't wait to get the can am back.
Guy who helps us has bought one, about a 400 I think. I was gathering sheep with it the other day, gutless, poor turning circle, unbelievably heavy steering, gear engagement poor, brakes poor and generally I thought it was a pile of Chinese sh*t. I said the the other half “ if I ever have a notion to save money by buying one of these, feel free to kick me in the bo**ocks”.
 
Last edited:

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
How much is a well schooled Highland pony (ride and drive)?
Don't know about the driving (yet) but a decent ridden pony would be in the region of £6,000 - £10,000. Obviously, age, training, etc. has a huge bearing on price. The guy in the advert is rather exceptional as over heights are the size of a horse (over 14.2HH) with all the advantages of a Highland pony (except barred from Society affiliated shows as too tall to be a pony) and he has all the extras.

What's special? Exceptional temperament, toughness (lives out 24/7, grows own coat in winter, freedom from disease, family pony, weight carriers, don't rust or need painting, etc). Disadvantages: Needs managing, kindness will kill them (Laminitis, EMS, etc.), grass/haylage only, no hard feed unless worked hard, scarce and getting expensive as owners want low maintenance. Plenty of videos at the above link.

There used to be plenty of shepherds going round their sheep on a pony. They will go where a quad won't go and breed their own replacements.
 

Poorbuthappy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
Guy who helps us has bought one, about a 400 I think. I was gathering sheep with it the other day, gutless, poor turning circle, unbelievably heavy steering, gear engagement poor, brakes poor and generally I thought it was a pile of Chinese sh*t. I said the the other half “ if I ever have a notion to save money by buying one of these, feel free to kick me in the bo**ocks”.
That was our experience
 

Ben B

Member
Mixed Farmer
Honda's are not what they used to be plastics poor and you'll almost die when you hear the price to replace it. Metals thin. But it's a Honda and if I could I'd have another. Don't think another brand would be any better and the ones we have have had some serious abuse.

The Japanese quad manufacturers pulled out of Australian a couple of years ago. The federal goverment mandated all new quads needed roll bars fitted. We are now left with Chinese options, we bought a TGB- fuel pump died within the first 1000kms and from brand new we have jammed some inch drain pipe of the exhausts to extend them past the roll bar frame so it didn't reverberate off the frame and make it extra loud. Mud guards are not long or wide enough to keep mud off it. Things 500 cc and goes like hell drinks fuel like it too. I'm not fan of belt drive machines we have gator and it chew them for fun. Had friend trade a can am off because they were sick of maintaining the belts "by the book at the dealer".
 

Poorbuthappy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
Don't know about the driving (yet) but a decent ridden pony would be in the region of £6,000 - £10,000. Obviously, age, training, etc. has a huge bearing on price. The guy in the advert is rather exceptional as over heights are the size of a horse (over 14.2HH) with all the advantages of a Highland pony (except barred from Society affiliated shows as too tall to be a pony) and he has all the extras.

What's special? Exceptional temperament, toughness (lives out 24/7, grows own coat in winter, freedom from disease, family pony, weight carriers, don't rust or need painting, etc). Disadvantages: Needs managing, kindness will kill them (Laminitis, EMS, etc.), grass/haylage only, no hard feed unless worked hard, scarce and getting expensive as owners want low maintenance. Plenty of videos at the above link.

There used to be plenty of shepherds going round their sheep on a pony. They will go where a quad won't go and breed their own replacements.
Will it operate a rappa fencing machine?😀
 

yoki

Member
That's the problem. Honda quads aren't Japanese, they're (IIRC) made in the USA, hence the quality issues.
There's few things now made exclusively in the country which the company would see as home.

Setting up a plant in the US is also a sure way to increase sales there. One of the main reasons that Kubota successfully managed to take on John Deere in the homeowner/smallholder market was setting up a manufacturing plant there.

Given the enormity of the ATV market in the US, it would make sense for Honda to do something similar with them.

Not sure that you could necessarily equate that to a drop off in quality given that they also have manufacturing plants all over the world.
 

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
That's the problem. Honda quads aren't Japanese, they're (IIRC) made in the USA, hence the quality issues.
I think they have to be assembled in the USA ( so "made in the USA") to comply with US law though they can import the parts. Can't quote you but pretty sure I read it somewhere or was told so on here.

I was looking for opinions before importing a pot and piston kit from China for my own Homda. I took advice from someone who said they were exactly the same as the imported stuff from the USA or available from your local dealer, all were made in China. Anyway, it was a fraction of the price and is still working away.
 

yoki

Member
I think they have to be assembled in the USA ( so "made in the USA") to comply with US law though they can import the parts. Can't quote you but pretty sure I read it somewhere or was told so on here.

I was looking for opinions before importing a pot and piston kit from China for my own Homda. I took advice from someone who said they were exactly the same as the imported stuff from the USA or available from your local dealer, all were made in China. Anyway, it was a fraction of the price and is still working away.
You also need to be aware that some Chinese aftermarket stuff is complete clabber.

"Made in China" PRC or however it's badged up, covers a huge variation in quality.
 

Y Fan Wen

Member
Location
N W Snowdonia
My Honda 420 is great. Can’t fault it. Totally basic manual transmission with the solid rear axle with centre strut suspension. It is made in the USA I think but pretty sure that the engine is made in Europe somewhere on mine. Petrol injection and the emissions stuff has actually made for a better water-cooled engine.
I like it. Try Dalton’s ATV’s. They certainly used to have large stocks and turn over large numbers of quads annually nationwide.
Hear, hear for this. Running 2x 420s and a 300 fourtrax here. 300 is 20 years+ and the 420s are both over 10.
 

Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
I think they have to be assembled in the USA ( so "made in the USA") to comply with US law though they can import the parts. Can't quote you but pretty sure I read it somewhere or was told so on here.

I was looking for opinions before importing a pot and piston kit from China for my own Homda. I took advice from someone who said they were exactly the same as the imported stuff from the USA or available from your local dealer, all were made in China. Anyway, it was a fraction of the price and is still working away.
Reminds me a lot of this…
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

  • 0 %

    Votes: 102 41.0%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 91 36.5%
  • 25-50%

    Votes: 37 14.9%
  • 50-75%

    Votes: 5 2.0%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 3 1.2%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 11 4.4%

May Event: The most profitable farm diversification strategy 2024 - Mobile Data Centres

  • 912
  • 13
With just a internet connection and a plug socket you too can join over 70 farms currently earning up to £1.27 ppkw ~ 201% ROI

Register Here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-mo...2024-mobile-data-centres-tickets-871045770347

Tuesday, May 21 · 10am - 2pm GMT+1

Location: Village Hotel Bury, Rochdale Road, Bury, BL9 7BQ

The Farming Forum has teamed up with the award winning hardware manufacturer Easy Compute to bring you an educational talk about how AI and blockchain technology is helping farmers to diversify their land.

Over the past 7 years, Easy Compute have been working with farmers, agricultural businesses, and renewable energy farms all across the UK to help turn leftover space into mini data centres. With...
Top