Honest answers, Brexiteers only, what price do you consider too high to leave the EU?

[bobk]

Cool.
Streets paved with gold next year

Well , we've certainly got a reasonable buffer .

 

[czechmate]

Well , we've certainly got a reasonable buffer .

 

[czechmate]

Tbh, I don’t get it, I would of thought the winners (brexiteers) would be too busy partying to bother with these threads

 

[Raider112]

Well. I’m sorry, but back in 2016 it was as plain as day to me (a simple peasant) that yes, this separation was going to do neither side any good.
So, guess what, I voted against it.
There is no satisfaction from me from that as all my family are living/trading in the uk but I am at least relieved that my own business is 99.9% European. I can manage for a year or two for David brown parts (it’s retired anyway), Martin leishman bits are a bit more annoying. If the sh!t really hits the fan, then farming in the uk with claas, Deere, Fendt.....?

I think you maybe quoted me by mistake? none of this is to do with my points.

 

[czechmate]

I think you maybe quoted me by mistake? none of this is to do with my points.

i thought it was

 

[Raider112]

i thought it was

Fair enough.

 

[czechmate]

Fair enough.

Let’s be honest, you don’t need to be bright for this job

 

[Ashtree]

Are you saying that all the problems are to do with leaving the single market? we all knew there would be problems there but that's not what we're talking about.
The issue here is the awkward attitude that seems to be in place which is nothing to do with the deal we left with.
Are you saying the BOE guy is making it up? what do you think Gove was having a meeting about yesterday if not to address these issues?
Are you really saying that there is absolutely no agenda here and we are all making it up? because that's how it looks and if that's what you are telling us how much else of what you say should be taken with a pinch of salt?
This is doing neither side any good so hopefully they all come to their senses but this comes right from the top of the EU as we saw with the vaccines fiasco and the Irish border humiliation so there's obviously some sort of policy there.

Yes actually. Voluntarily leaving the single market AND the customs union, voluntarily signs up for a raft of restrictions, constrictions, paperwork, delays, higher costs etc.
Don’t tell me, British business lobbies weren’t sick and tired of telling the government that business would suffer outside the SM
The governments response was “f**k business”!
Not everything has changed though. EU is still getting the blame.

 

[Hindsight]

Tbh, I don’t get it, I would of thought the winners (brexiteers) would be too busy partying to bother with these threads

There all still shielding. Nothing better to do. Anyway complaining about the EU is their favourite pastime, apart from drinking cocoa.

 

[Raider112]

Yes actually. Voluntarily leaving the single market AND the customs union, voluntarily signs up for a raft of restrictions, constrictions, paperwork, delays, higher costs etc.
Don’t tell me, British business lobbies weren’t sick and tired of telling the government that business would suffer outside the SM
The governments response was “fudge business”!
Not everything has changed though. EU is still getting the blame.

You missed the point entirely. Probably deliberately.

 

[le bon paysan]

Are you saying that all the problems are to do with leaving the single market? we all knew there would be problems there but that's not what we're talking about.
The issue here is the awkward attitude that seems to be in place which is nothing to do with the deal we left with.
Are you saying the BOE guy is making it up? what do you think Gove was having a meeting about yesterday if not to address these issues?
Are you really saying that there is absolutely no agenda here and we are all making it up? because that's how it looks and if that's what you are telling us how much else of what you say should be taken with a pinch of salt?
This is doing neither side any good so hopefully they all come to their senses but this comes right from the top of the EU as we saw with the vaccines fiasco and the Irish border humiliation so there's obviously some sort of policy there.

Gove hasn't got 90% of the Protocol working. As Šefčovič said "put the whole Protocol in place. Then we'll see. You haven't done what you agreed to do, so you've broken the agreement already."
You wrote the Third country rules, you voted them in place, you pushed harder for them than many other countries to implement them while in the EU. Then you voted to become a a Third Country. FFS!
So now you whine constantly that the EU are implementing said rules. Did you really think they would say ' aahh it's ok , you can have your cake and eat it'.
Sod off to WTO, you've half screwed the country over , go commando and finish the job 100%!

 

[arcobob]

Well. I’m sorry, but back in 2016 it was as plain as day to me (a simple peasant) that yes, this separation was going to do neither side any good.
So, guess what, I voted against it.
There is no satisfaction from me from that as all my family are living/trading in the uk but I am at least relieved that my own business is 99.9% European. I can manage for a year or two for David brown parts (it’s retired anyway), Martin leishman bits are a bit more annoying. If the sh!t really hits the fan, then farming in the uk with claas, Deere, Fendt.....?

A shortage of parts will lead to a drop in whole machine purchases and a gift to the likes of Kubota. No wonder the Germans are commenting on the slump in sales to the UK. Who really is shooting themselves in the foot?

 

[arcobob]

Tbh, I don’t get it, I would of thought the winners (brexiteers) would be too busy partying to bother with these threads

The lockdown fines are too big.

 

[czechmate]

The lockdown fines are too big.

FaceTime?

 

[Muck Spreader]

A shortage of parts will lead to a drop in whole machine purchases and a gift to the likes of Kubota. No wonder the Germans are commenting on the slump in sales to the UK. Who really is shooting themselves in the foot?

Kubota's are made in France.

 

[bobk]

Kubota's are made in France.

That explains a lot .

 

[czechmate]

That explains a lot .

You don’t think they are any good?

Mind,jcb fans except their gear to catch fire don’t they, so you feel let down if they don’t?

 

[czechmate]

A shortage of parts will lead to a drop in whole machine purchases and a gift to the likes of Kubota. No wonder the Germans are commenting on the slump in sales to the UK. Who really is shooting themselves in the foot?

The thing is...

You talk as though the UK is a significant market...

Well, write, I’ve never spoken to you

 

[bobk]

You don’t think they are any good?

Mind,jcb fans except their gear to catch fire don’t they, so you feel let down if they don’t?

Not keen on 4 cylinders and loads of diesel .

 

[Muck Spreader]

You don’t think they are any good?

Mind,jcb fans except their gear to catch fire don’t they, so you feel let down if they don’t?

JCB are really a niche market product, about 250 units sold a year in the UK ?