Honest opinions on Bazadiase cattle.

[Granite Farmer]

So what are the like if used on native cross suckler cows. Would they produce a good spring born calf for the suckler calve sales?

Also are they easily finished are a predominantly foraged based system?

TIA

James

PS I'm really and AA and Hereford man but have had to let our Aberdeen Angus go at short notice due to medical reasons. There doesn't seem to be much around at the mo.

 

[sticky]

I think @choochter is a bazadiase fan.

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

I try to avoid buying them for use as grazing cattle.
They make a premium price but feed costs are much higher than good quality natives.
They are in the same mould as Blonds and Belgian Blues that need grain rather than grass to finish.

 

[choochter]

The British Bazadaise Cattle Society will be at Beef Expo at Darlington Farmers Mart on Sat 28th May.
We'll be taking a pure Bazadaise cow and calf and a dairy cross heifer with a Bazadaise sired calf, possibly these...

There will be a chap there who finishes pure Baz and these in the photos and also rears and finishes dairy bred Bazadaise sired calves sired by some of the AI bulls

As you can see, the calves are a good shape. As for finishing off grass I think the folks who want these type of calves wont be finishing off grass, well not for the last 3-6 months anyway.

Bazadaise sired calves are easily born, because they are small at birth without much muscling. The muscling develops over the coming months. Because the cows have an easy birth, they bounce back, do well and get settled back in calf quickly - and there is definitely an economic advantage to that.

@matthew has both Angus and Bazadaise and can tell you more about native crosses.

Come and visit us at Beef Expo.

 

[matthew]

We sold a baz bull to a suckler herd in S. Devon last week, to go over beef shorthorns.

Short answer - they're pretty good on all crosses. And as @choochter says, we run angus and bazadaise (pedigrees) and x bred mix of both as suckler mums.

You're not too far from us, and are welcome to come and view. Bring your trailer - two weeks to go on this TB test. pm for the full address. (North Cornwall - about ten miles from Hallworthy market)

https://www.kivells.com/sites/default/files/market-reports/14th%20April%202022%20merged.pdf

This lad had his pic in lights a month ago, and he wasn't 14 months. He was 1 year and 3 weeks. Mum was a baz x angus.

These are the two year old bulls, we have for sale.

 

[matthew]

I try to avoid buying them for use as grazing cattle.
They make a premium price but feed costs are much higher than good quality natives.
They are in the same mould as Blonds and Belgian Blues that need grain rather than grass to finish.

Very little hard feed here. Just decent silage after creep as calves. But they wouldn't out winter too well.
We bought a foundation cow and her bull calf in 2007 so a fair run.

 

[willie waver]

whats their temperament like?

 

[choochter]

whats their temperament like?

In my herd, great. I require my cattle to be quiet and sensible as I'm working with them on my own.
I also have some Limousin crosses and they are quiet too.

 

[matthew]

whats their temperament like?

OK. This years’ bulls are that laid back, they’re horizontal
Seriously, most are really good. Some of the anguses can be more spooky.

 

[Shann_mann]

I’ve just brought a Bazadaise bull to use my on a dairy herd but do run a hand full of suckler cows. Was dreading the feedback on this post. But I slightly more relieved to read it.

 

[crofteress]

Had a baz bull and used him on luing , sim luing and blue x lim cows . Calves as good or better than by a lim bull and native mothers with the milk supply gave fantastic growth rates for the autumn calve sales . Calves small at birth but motor on and never dumpy or bellied at sale time . Puts shape on native and any daughters kept can go on and get crossed with lim or blue for a 3 way mix . Temp of calves always great and quiet never had a mad one