Horsch OSR Tines

[Fred]

What sort of hp would you need on the front of a 6m CO with the Metcalf/solo points on heavy but reasonably flat ground please?

your neighbour used to pull a 6m with a 7810, however we are pulling our sprinter with a 285 , i reckon you could get away with 220hp and be boss of the job , i presume the metcalfe points take less pulling ,

 

[Longneck]

No need to go any faster than 10-12kmh I wold think.

Have a 6210r which I would think should manage it?

I would think Metcalf type points would be less power hungry

 

[Longneck]

your neighbour used to pull a 6m with a 7810, however we are pulling our sprinter with a 285 , i reckon you could get away with 220hp and be boss of the job , i presume the metcalfe points take less pulling ,

What points do you have on that Mark?

 

[Fred]

What points do you have on that Mark?

We have 4 different points , Duett, Solo, 5" sweep, homemade OSR point , be careful going to deep with a narrow point ,

We use Duetts for drilling wheat into cultivated seedbeds or the sweeps if its wet ,

 

[dontknowanything]

I would think Metcalf type points would be less power hungry

I doubt they are much easier than solos, but will be a bit. IME solos take about 40% less power than duetts

 

[damaged]

@Fred "be careful going deep with a narrow point" Careful of what?

Does anyone think CO springs would be up to DD with metcalfe points/solos in clay loam ?

If only travelling 6kmph (4 mph) would a JD 7530 pull 6m sprinter on gentle slopes clay loam. Or 8m ????

 

[Fred]

B careful of smearing instead of cultivating ,

 

[Mr Mole]

What sort of hp would you need on the front of a 6m CO with the Metcalf/solo points on heavy but reasonably flat ground please?

I would think 180 Hp would play with 6m quite happily.

 

[Mr Mole]

I DD all soil types without any problems,just adjust speed to conditions,nice going and 14 k is ok with very little soil throw but general I travel at 12-12.5 k to keep disturbance as low as possible.after all it is only a 13mm wide point at 30mm deep.on cultivated ground as fast as you like the only limit is the feed roller.

 

[normandyfarmer]

That's actually one of the reasons why I changed my co for a sprinter, the tines was bouncing out on the clay and putting the seed too deep on the sand. In a min till it's not a problem but unless you have very consistent fileds it will give some challenges in dd.
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Is that a home made disc bar at the front ? Or who did you buy it from ?

Didn't know about the Metcalf, they look good. Any price for a Horsch CO narrow point ?

 

[JDJ]

Is that a home made disc bar at the front ? Or who did you buy it from ?

Didn't know about the Metcalf, they look good. Any price for a Horsch CO narrow point ?

Yes it's a home made system, but It has really transformed the drill into a true dd machine, will go through lots of trash without dragging any piles and the soli throw is reduced to a minimum.

 

[AF Salers]

@Mr Mole @dontknowanything Sorry for all the questions!!
Do you get good slot closure/refilling of the the slot with soil with the CO, particularly on heavy clay ground?
Have you made any alterations to the standard CO drill other than changing to low disturbance tines?
How do they cope with high chopped straw & cover crop situations?

Many thanks

 

[dontknowanything]

No, slot closure relies on friable soil and the rakes on the back. Heavy clay would not be very good.

We have made no other mods, for a tine it deals very well with residue as there is so much clearance. We did bung it up a lot last week drilling into pea stubble with some heavy bindweed patches.

 

[Tim May]

Yes it's a home made system, but It has really transformed the drill into a true dd machine, will go through lots of trash without dragging any piles and the soli throw is reduced to a minimum.

I've been looking for thoes discs and holders to do the same infront of my cayena where did you find them?

 

[JDJ]

I've been looking for thoes discs and holders to do the same infront of my cayena where did you find them?

They are from a HEVA (optico) grassland subsoiler.

But I think Amazone offers them as for the Cayena as optional

Jacob.

 

[AF Salers]

@dontknowanything Thank you, think it will have to be a disc drill next

 

[Tim May]

They are from a HEVA (optico) grassland subsoiler.

But I think Amazone offers them as for the Cayena as optional

Jacob.

I've not tried them but I understand from others that its hard to get penetration on this system. what I like about your set up is that they are individual and so stones/rocks won't lift the whole lot out of the ground just the individual disc. I've also been toying with the idea of fitting a sem tech tine so as to get the seed placement effect of the cross slot but at a more reasonable establishment cost. anybody tried that?

 

[Ferobide Man]

Sounds like there is a lot of opener tine modification going on out there, if you would like to have some of the new Tenmat Ferobide weldable tungsten carbide tiles, which can be welded "on farm" and are much tougher than standard WC then let me know, we even have a few free samples, watch out for the Ferobide launch in the farming press soon.

 

[Davos]

Looks like sumo are going to sell single disc openers for anybody wanting to put them on a tine drill,but no information as yet.
www.sumo1.com/index.php/wearing-parts-finder/sdo

 

[Fuzzy]

Speak to Mike Metcalfe of JJ Metcalfle and son,been using these this year and so far I have no regrets ,very low disturbance and fantastic wear resistance.View attachment 197048 View attachment 197046

How are you getting on with these points? Are you still using them ?