Horsch Sprinter operation

YELROM

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Location
North Yorkshire
@alomy75 we are looking to get Metcalfe 12mm points and a set of 100 band sowing coulters for our Sprinter
I was wondering what you thought of the longer points, i was thinking of getting the longer 12mm and 100mm band sowing coulters as they bolt on instead of using roll pins as the soil wash is further down the point, but not sure if the longer 100mm band sowing points will trip the drill legs more as our Sprinter is on twin vertical springs
 

alomy75

Member
@alomy75 we are looking to get Metcalfe 12mm points and a set of 100 band sowing coulters for our Sprinter
I was wondering what you thought of the longer points, i was thinking of getting the longer 12mm and 100mm band sowing coulters as they bolt on instead of using roll pins as the soil wash is further down the point, but not sure if the longer 100mm band sowing points will trip the drill legs more as our Sprinter is on twin vertical springs
There’s option of 175, 200 and 225 just to add to your decision making. Looks like the 12mm come as standard as 175 and I’ve gone for the 200’s behind the wheels. For my setup they are just the ticket just to make sure the seed behind the wheels is nicely tucked in without going silly deep when it’s dry and the tractor doesn’t sink. I think the 225 would be too much (unless the majority are 200 and 225 behind the wheels). Can’t comment on the winged point; Mike told me most people progress from the 12mm to the winged point but I must admit I’m sticking to the 12mm. If I was going into cultivated I think I’d go Bourghalt to have the option of different tips; 100mm sounds wide to me if it’s direct with regard to soil disturbance/seed covering. On my land when it’s dry I’d be nervous with a twin spring sprinter/CO on a wide coulter but I can’t comment on your situation, it might be fine. It would however be mighty upsetting to change the whole lot and start drilling only to see them not staying in the ground…maybe try changing just one? My single spring legs (name escapes me) still trip occasionally and I have a friend with a CO on 12mm metcalfe who says if you go too fast they’re constantly flexing especially behind the wheels. I think I’ve read on here somewhere it’s possible to wind the twin springs up so you haven’t got any springy-ness but sounds risky.
 

Rob101

Member
Arable Farmer
Hi,
I’m currently in the process of purchasing a sprinter. I have it on demo and sowed beans with it and was very happy. I’m changing tips for spring barley and see it is very difficult to get the pins out to change the tips. Does anyone have any other efficient ways of changing the tips on a sprinter?
TIA
 

Rob101

Member
Arable Farmer
Here’s an image. There is Dutch openers on the drill.
 

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solo

Member
Location
worcestershire
Just a tip from the experience and pain you mention. Change from those rolled up spring pins from Canada to 6mm standard roll pins. You'll get 20 swaps / uses at least from them and change points (16 in our case) in 15 minutes. Best £3 I think I've spent on that drill...
This was mentioned recently.
 

kiwi

Member
Yep I have a couple of wider wheels awaiting fitment but I need to modify the rim offset so may be a winter job. At long last my wheat is coming through; I think I got it waaaay too deep. The metcalfes really do tuck it in behind/under the point; 50-75mm when I was aiming for 40. Just hope the whole field will follow these ‘photo patches’ 😂View attachment 918961
Looks like lots of earthworm castings. What’s the secret for that?
 

BourgaultVos

Member
Fancy sharing any of the other benefits...? ;)

And for good measure why not a few drawbacks as well for a true comparison. :D
Hi Steevo,

The benefits of using Bourgault over our competitors system are -
* Stainless nut and cap head screw that secures the tip to the holder.
* Less disturbance, due to the tillage nib and rake angles of the tip.
* Our carbide is on the underside (sharpens) and not on the leading edge (becomes rounded / blunt).
* More consistent seed placement due to lower disturbance, improved moisture retention.
* Running costs per Ha / Acre lower , do not need to change them so often.
And so on.

* The draw back is the initial purchase is slightly more expensive.

The picture below is a 6m Sprinter ST fitted with Dutch and 4 or 5 BTT VOS fitted on the right hand side of the drill.

For more information please email [email protected].
 

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DutchOpeners

Member
Arable Farmer
Hi Steevo,

The benefits of using Bourgault over our competitors system are -
* Stainless nut and cap head screw that secures the tip to the holder.
* Less disturbance, due to the tillage nib and rake angles of the tip.
* Our carbide is on the underside (sharpens) and not on the leading edge (becomes rounded / blunt).
* More consistent seed placement due to lower disturbance, improved moisture retention.
* Running costs per Ha / Acre lower , do not need to change them so often.
And so on.

* The draw back is the initial purchase is slightly more expensive.

The picture below is a 6m Sprinter ST fitted with Dutch and 4 or 5 BTT VOS fitted on the right hand side of the drill.

For more information please email [email protected].
One of the easiest way to remove a roll pin is to start with an oversized punch and hammer the pin down so it is flush with the body, then use an undersized punch to punch the pin the remainder of the way through the holder. I know that they can be a pain at times but we have tried other options over the years and have always gone back to the spiral roll pin. If you require more the part number is RP14114
The nut and bolt can be an effective way of attaching the tip to the holder but in many cases they can not be removed easily resulting in the need to break the tip off to remove it. This makes it difficult to switch back and forth between sized tips for different crops.

A couple of benefits to using Dutch Openers
*21 tip options to fit on that holder
*Installed and endorsed by Horsch as an OEM opener
*2 large distributors in the UK to ensure you have the opener when you need it
*Lower initial cost than comparable openers

Please feel free to message us if you have any other questions or concerns.

Thanks
The Dutch Agriculture team.
 

case44

Member
Can you get Dutch openers to fit Simba Freeflow standard legs as a matter of interest?I have just purchased some Metcalfe points,but may change again in the future.
 

BTT UK Ltd

Member
Trade
Hi,
I’m currently in the process of purchasing a sprinter. I have it on demo and sowed beans with it and was very happy. I’m changing tips for spring barley and see it is very difficult to get the pins out to change the tips. Does anyone have any other efficient ways of changing the tips on a sprinter?
TIA
Buy the sprinter bare tined and out Bourgault VOS tips as they use and nut and bolt system to attach the tips
 
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alomy75

Member
Are any Horsch Bourgault users able to share the depth spacer colours they use for direct drilling wheat with 4” paired please?
Wouldn’t it depend on crop to be drilled, soil type, soil condition….?! Or have you got an issue? With metcalfe I use;
Beans Big silver
Wheat Big silver and red +\- blue
Osr Big silver and 2 reds
Is blue the smallest available? Sometimes it’s too much…
 

alomy75

Member
Another query; how much seed do people dare take up the road in a 4m sprinter? My old freeflow had warnings not to take any but haven’t seen anything on the Horsch? 🤷‍♂️
 

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