Horse waste disposal

[Red Fred]

Please tell me that you did a Google image search for "manure fetish" just to complete your understanding?

It's worth it, honest

Manure fetish??? I thoiught it was Mature Fetish so I've found a new way to while away rainy Sunday afternoons

 

[DrDunc]

Manure fetish??? I thoiught it was Mature Fetish so I've found a new way to while away rainy Sunday afternoons

The difference between the T and the N in the typing, is the difference between a pleasant Sunday afternoon "while", and running screaming every time you pass the dung heap, trust me!

 

[Sharpy]

The difference between the T and the N in the typing, is the difference between a pleasant Sunday afternoon "while", and running screaming every time you pass the dung heap, trust me!

Is that how "your friend " discovered the difference?

 

[Kev.C]

It might help if you do a bit of googling . Look a this websiteView attachment 961315View attachment 961316View attachment 961317

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Thanks for that I have just looked it up and will give it a read. This thread has made me realise why I don’t venture much into social media but thank you for the info.

 

[Rob Holmes]

It's an amazing money earning diversification opportunity!!!!!

Just Google "manure fetish" and you'll discover that there are many desperate people desperate for gratification using the midden heap

Hint, you may need to add water for the correct consistency, and then delete browsing history

Do you remember a few years ago, someone joined the TFF and requested permission for access to a slurry pit for “non sexual gratification “

 

[Kev.C]

Don’t take this the wrong way your probably dealing with a mega ‘Karen’ who won’t be told how to manage her field. Even if she just sticks it in a heap there’s nothing wrong with that but it needs to be moved once a year. And the hair isn’t huge amounts ( as someone who breeds shires) it isn’t going to surmount to a lot. Not sure what the end game of this thread is, other than your taking photos of shite thrown under a hedge? A lot of folk on here make their money from the horse fraternity as do I, so there’s a tad more empathy to their madness.

this is the heap from the last 6 months from ours.... so be very glad it isn’t that big.

Thanks classic hay. I know it does not look a lot but it’s now spread down best part of our 250 m boundary and I want to address it with facts to hand before it does get worse. Our barns are over 300 m appart so if they wanted to keep a muck heap I would have no problem with that as there would be no logical reason for it to be behind my barn 300 m from their stables. I think they just does not want to either pay to get rid of it or manage it properly hence dumping it in the boundary using the “fertiliser” for the trees as a convenience, I am well aware some people have little consideration for others if it’s saving them a few quid. We used to have horses hear and had a muck heap near our barn. The urine soaked shavings don’t rot down and smell lovely as you might know.
Some people have gone off on a tangent with this, I posted for a bit of factually info so when I do speak with my neighbour if they are stubborn about it I can then produce the regs as such as a last resort.
Children go down there as well as adults so just not nice having crap and flies so close when as a responsible horse owner could be managed much better.
I have emailed Defra and Enviroment agency today just to ask for guidance.
Thanks to all those who have offered some sensible advise.

 

[HarryB97]

It’s not a massive plot in agricultural terms but the boundary is very close to my building it’s the smell and flies on a warm or sunny day.
mom trying to get the facts as I thought it had to disposed of properly as fresh waste is not good for either soil or plants and I believeThe enviroment agency don’t like it either.

All waste is fresh to start with, composting does not happen over night!

 

[Kev.C]

Is the barn your work place or home,I would have a word with them over your concerns a nice approach first.If they tell you to do one you maybe could ask council environment officer.Does the muck rules not apply to horse owners with land.You only have a muck heap where it is to be spread.Another concern is it near a water course

Thanks Nelly it’s my workplace

My response is based on the pictures, which basically show a few forks of shyte at the base of a hedge/around some trees on you neighbours property (did you ask permission to go onto his property to take pictures to use against him?)
Neighbour has done nothing wrong, he isn't stockpiling years and years of animal dung, he's just moving it from the grazing area.. But you go to the effort of finding and joining a forum in the hope that someone will give you some ammunition to use against a person, who it seems to me, is just trying to manage his land a bit. Why didn't you spend that time just talking to the guy? Possibly because you hoped to dredge up some ancient rural bylaw so you could confront him and force him to desist from irritating you.

As has been asked, have you got nothing else to worry about?

It's bad enough when urban dwellers buy a little house in the Country and then moan about what the farmers do. When it's another landowner moaning about normal rural practices (and trying to involve others in their petty arguments) it really would try the patience of a Saint


PS I'd love to hear what the neighbour has to say

Owned the land for 20 years never a problem. Not some city slicker nee to the countryside trying to impose my towny views on the country folk. Not had this problem before and no actually aware of the rules or regs on dumping crap along your neighbours fence so you don’t have to pay to dispose of it properly so I thought I would ask if anyone new the facts to perhaps share so I had them as a last resort when I pop around to have a chat with my neighbour if this chat does not go as hoped.
I joined the forum because I was searching info and it came up and I thought I might get some sensible advise which I have from some.
Not set out to pick a fight with any one just asked if anyone new the regs

 

[MRT]

Thanks Nelly it’s my workplace

Owned the land for 20 years never a problem. Not some city slicker nee to the countryside trying to impose my towny views on the country folk. Not had this problem before and no actually aware of the rules or regs on dumping crap along your neighbours fence so you don’t have to pay to dispose of it properly so I thought I would ask if anyone new the facts to perhaps share so I had them as a last resort when I pop around to have a chat with my neighbour if this chat does not go as hoped.
I joined the forum because I was searching info and it came up and I thought I might get some sensible advise which I have from some.
Not set out to pick a fight with any one just asked if anyone new the regs

If it really bothers you that much be as nice as you can be and aware that they can look into your business/life and criticise too, eg. noise levels, planning, permits, HSE, council etc etc

 

[Bald Rick]

Do you remember a few years ago, someone joined the TFF and requested permission for access to a slurry pit for “non sexual gratification “

Cornwall .... enough said

Man with manure fetish jailed fo vendetta against farmer

David Truscott, 43, threatened to burn down the farm in West Cornwall and to attack owner Clive Roth, his wife Jackie, and their family.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Kev.C]

If it really bothers you that much be as nice as you can be and aware that they can look into your business/life and criticise too, eg. noise levels, planning, permits, HSE, council etc etc

I plan to be nice and I have nothing to hide. As I said just trying to be armed with some facts when we have a chat.
I think they are just trying to save money by not disposing of it properly and not considered others who might be effected.
thanks for your input

 

[betweenthelines]

In your OP you say the land you own was "previously equestrian, so not classed as agricultural" yet you also refer to "my barn"

Is the "barn" not more correctly termed a "workshop"? as it's not on farmland and you also say it is the place where you "work"


Perhaps your neighbour is unhappy about your use of you workshop and what we have here is more a tit-for-tat dispute between neighbours who have fallen out.

I would love to see your neighbour's views.

Until both sides of the story are presented, people should refrain from offering advice which may be used incorrectly.

 

[Classichay]

Cornwall .... enough said

Man with manure fetish jailed fo vendetta against farmer

David Truscott, 43, threatened to burn down the farm in West Cornwall and to attack owner Clive Roth, his wife Jackie, and their family.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Can this get any weirder poor blokes been burdened by some horse poo dont be so mean
Just remember it works both ways.... if you bite they bite back if your upto anything planning isn’t aware. And generally muck heaps have to be sited away from stables for insurance as your aware that they can and do catch fire.

 

[Doc]

I think your neighbour has every right to apply compost to his/her hedge. It doesn’t look much and will rot down quickly. The straw and shavings in horse muck help keep it aerobic ime.
I have a few liveries here and do the E muck heap thing alluded to earlier. I can’t say the odour or flies are an issue and our house is only 20M downwind albeit separated by a dry stone wall.
Live and let live. Life is too short for trivial disputes over shoite ( literally).

 

[flowerpot]

Its one thing to have muck from your own horses, or horse business, near your house, but quite another if they belong to someone else.

I remember this being quite a discussion point when our Parish Council had to consider planning for stables and one thing was always to have a plan for disposal of the muck heap so it couldn't be a nuisance to neighbours.

I think you should just mention it to start with. Contact the Council environmental section and ask them about the law.

I know we take away a muck heap for one lady so it isn't a nuisance for her neighbours.

 

[Kev.C]

I think your neighbour has every right to apply compost to his/her hedge. It doesn’t look much and will rot down quickly. The straw and shavings in horse muck help keep it aerobic ime.
I have a few liveries here and do the E muck heap thing alluded to earlier. I can’t say the odour or flies are an issue and our house is only 20M downwind albeit separated by a dry stone wall.
Live and let live. Life is too short for trivial disputes over shoite ( literally).

Thanks Doc I am open for a sensible balanced view.

 

[DrDunc]

Christ almighty

Just go knock on the neighbours door with a bottle of whisky in hand and talk to the people!!!!!

Explain your dislike of the smell, and if they're in any way normal empathetic people, they'll stop dumping the sodding stuff next to your "barn".

When you live in "rural" areas you should still be able to actually speak to people instead of being ridiculed on "social media".

And if that still don't work, start inviting round the nutters that like to get their jollies rolling around in shyte. Your neighbour will soon stop dumping out then!

FFS

 

[Kev.C]

In your OP you say the land you own was "previously equestrian, so not classed as agricultural" yet you also refer to "my barn"

Is the "barn" not more correctly termed a "workshop"? as it's not on farmland and you also say it is the place where you "work"


Perhaps your neighbour is unhappy about your use of you workshop and what we have here is more a tit-for-tat dispute between neighbours who have fallen out.

I would love to see your neighbour's views.

Until both sides of the story are presented, people should refrain from offering advice which may be used incorrectly.

No disputes exist between neighbours hence I’m trying to get facts before we discuss. equestrian land is not agricultural land in planning terms.
our barns are to far apart to create a nuisance, my query was purely see if anyone knew about the correct disposal of waste.

 

[Kev.C]

Christ almighty

Just go knock on the neighbours door with a bottle of whisky in hand and talk to the people!!!!!

Explain your dislike of the smell, and if they're in any way normal empathetic people, they'll stop dumping the sodding stuff next to your "barn".

When you live in "rural" areas you should still be able to actually speak to people instead of being ridiculed on "social media".

And if that still don't work, start inviting round the nutters that like to get their jollies rolling around in shyte. Your neighbour will soon stop dumping out then!

FFS

Will do
Thanks that’s my lot now I’m done got enough views .

 

[Red Fred]

I have a few liveries here and do the E muck heap thing alluded to earlier. I can’t say the odour or flies are an issue and our house is only 20M downwind albeit separated by a dry stone wall.
Live and let live. Life is too short for trivial disputes over shoite ( literally).

We have a Christian Mission at the old farm house over the fence from our stables and they can be rather unChristian if anything upsets them, but our E heaps have never caused any trouble with anyone. The only time they really smell is when I tidy up the heaps with the digger, and then it is only while the steam comes off for a few minutes. (Why the Church felt it necessary to send Missionaries to Corfe Mullen is another question... )