Horse waste disposal

[Bill dog]

One last observation, and I wish you well resolving your issues. If you live in America/ Canada they will be called a barn . This side of the pond they are called Sheds ! Good luck !

 

[case44]

Is the horse still alive....?

 

[Classichay]

You do know if they can use google it’s the first thing that may pop up so be prepared to be on the back foot with them.....

 

[Hfd Cattle]

Hi all.
I am new to the site and came across it searching a specific query.
I own a parcel of land, previous use was equestrian so not classed as agricultural, Next to a plot where the owner keeps polo ponies.
The owner has been tipping all their fresh muck with horse hair and wood shaving bedding on the hedge just their side of the the boundary which separates our two plots. It is easily visible and on a sunny day or wind or breaker in the wrong direction stinks and flies everywhere and is directly behind our barn and hardstanding which is our most used area.
I know this is the countryside but before I go further I wanted to know if it’s acceptable.
The horse waste and shavings and hair are fresh and in no way composted.
I would very much appreciate some factual responses.
Many Thanks

The biggest mistake you have made is in your OP.
Instead of putting up a photo of the muck heap you should have put up a photo of the offending horse girl ....you would probably then have had many offers from the forum to go and have a quiet word with her .

 

[Jameshenry]

Is the horse still alive....?

I heard it died in it's stable

 

[Kev.C]

It might help if you do a bit of googling . Look a this websiteView attachment 961315View attachment 961316View attachment 961317

Thanks again After reading and followed some links to the government website and all sorted have the info now.

 

[DrDunc]

Thanks again After reading and followed some links to the government website and all sorted have the info now.

Have you procured the whisky in anticipation of a pleasant chat which doesn't need to resort to confrontational "I know my rights and these are the rules from DEFRA"?

 

[ollie989898]

I would not appreciate someone dumping horse muck on the boundary, the flies and smell may be an issue but in time if they persist with it, it WILL kill the hedge and block/pollute the stream.

Horse folk should pay someone to take it away.

 

[Bald Rick]

Know your enemy .......

 

[betweenthelines]

No disputes exist between neighbours hence I’m trying to get facts before we discuss. equestrian land is not agricultural land in planning terms.
our barns are to far apart to create a nuisance, my query was purely see if anyone knew about the correct disposal of waste.

If there's no disputes, don't start one

Is your barn a barn (farm building used for storage) or is it a workshop (seeing as you said you work in it) If it's a workshop, what do you do in it.

PS. Why don't you just contact the local NFU for guidance?


PPS I never mentioned "Planning" I wonder why you felt the need to do so???

 

[ollie989898]

I heard it died in it's stable

There was a thread about that... And no, you can't dump that in a hedge either before anyone asks!

 

[harrow]

When I was keen on gardening I had to pay for horse muck when I collected it, now they can't give it away ?

 

[Kev.C]

If there's no disputes, don't start one

Is your barn a barn (farm building used for storage) or is it a workshop (seeing as you said you work in it) If it's a workshop, what do you do in it.

PS. Why don't you just contact the local NFU for guidance?


PPS I never mentioned "Planning" I wonder why you felt the need to do so???
I used the phrase in planning terms because over the years whilst applying for change of use of what was an equestrian barn there is a difference ( in planning terms) as to the use of the land it sits on. Agricultural use is different to the use of horses hence different rules apply. What might be permissible on agricultural land may not necessarily on equestrian land and likewise the other way around, although it appears agricultural land has more flexibility in terms of its permitted use.
No big secrets to tell I’m afraid.
Not being a farmer not sure the NFU would have had any advise for me which might seem a bit contradictory as I ending up asking on this site, only because it came up when I was originally looking to find if this was aloud or not.
Pointed in the right direction by some I have now managed to find the rules as such for disposal of waste.
Job done. I would like to thank you for your help but not actually sure you’ve given any ? If I’m wrong and you have then thanks

 

[betweenthelines]

As it's neither agric or equestrian, what is the ex barn used for now?

Just wondering if next door might be as pee'd of with you as you are with them?

 

[Hfd Cattle]

As it's neither agric or equestrian, what is the ex barn used for now?

Just wondering if next door might be as pee'd of with you as you are with them?

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[toquark]

A friend had a horsey neighbour who used the boundary as a midden, soon enough it was covered in nettles which rooted down and blocked the drain, turning one half of theirs and their neighbour’s field into a bog.

Whilst I agree a confrontational approach would be sub optimal. I wouldn’t be best pleased if I were in the OP’s position and would probably also be having a word with the neighbours.

 

[Classichay]

Nettles are a total pain to remove pretty sure they’re immune to glypho as they just rebound back after a few weeks

 

[honeyend]

Thanks Nelly it’s my workplace

Owned the land for 20 years never a problem. Not some city slicker nee to the countryside trying to impose my towny views on the country folk. Not had this problem before and no actually aware of the rules or regs on dumping crap along your neighbours fence so you don’t have to pay to dispose of it properly so I thought I would ask if anyone new the facts to perhaps share so I had them as a last resort when I pop around to have a chat with my neighbour if this chat does not go as hoped.
I joined the forum because I was searching info and it came up and I thought I might get some sensible advise which I have from some.
Not set out to pick a fight with any one just asked if anyone new the regs

I think no one is picking a fight, manure of all sorts comes with living with livestock and depending on how much you have there are different methods of disposal. What you may see as a problem other people, including many local councils, see as a resource, hair and wood chippings can be put in the green bin.
I have a muck heap that I have taken away with a grab lorry, I have also used compost bins and the local allotment holders used to take it away, and shock horror, I even put some along the hedge line. I have never had a hedge die doing this, and its never been smelly, or covered with flies. Flies are the part of the recycling system, you have countryside you have flies, because things die, and maggots are there to tidy them up. That dead badger at the side of the road will be being recycled by flies, and all the manure and dead animals, you can not see the same thing is happening.
I want to know what happens when you fall out with the neighbours and the' nuisance' is coming from somewhere else.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

I have a feeling that "picking up horse muck from a field" is not good for the dung beetles either, it should be left for the beetles to recycle it, I have also heard that harrowing the muck to break it up is also bad for the beetles. Discuss!

 

[betweenthelines]

I have a feeling that "picking up horse muck from a field" is not good for the dung beetles either, it should be left for the beetles to recycle it, I have also heard that harrowing the muck to break it up is also bad for the beetles. Discuss!

Wow- that opens up a whole new can of worms (see what I did there?)

How long before XR activists start picketing farms that use chain harrows, as part of a BLM campaign ?

Beetle Lives Matter!