How’s your OSR looking now

[Laggard]

I know, it was definitely the right way up when I took it

Were you?

 

[Hampton]

Were you?

Probably not, bloody sky hooks

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

Both fields I wrote off were partly due to sewage cake application. Delays in the crew getting here to spread it meant it was sown in the first week in September, and the later the sowing date the worse the damage from grazing. I ran the Claydon straight into the treated stubble and double rolled within 24 hours but the CSFB ate it as it emerged despite 21mm of rain 3 days after drilling. There have been lots of good stories about better success where manures & slurry were used but perhaps some of this is down to higher inherent soil fertility where there has been a long history of organic matter applications. @l'ordinary bonville uses lots of slurry on his but lost a fair chunk.

Sewage cake isn't high in readily available N. NVZ regs mean you can't add any bagged fertiliser after pre drilling applications. I use liquid N pre drilling on the rest & this got the crop up & away quickly.

Organic manures do very little early on in my experience. Their effect seems to kick in by end of October with a growth spurt before winter.
they certainly do nothing for flea beetle

 

[pipestretcher]

The only input this crop has had is 100kgN, nothing else, not even seed!! It is by far the best looking crop on the farm.

 

[David.]

A crop of volunteers?

 

[pipestretcher]

Yes, not expecting great things but it certainly looks OK.

 

[David.]

Following osr last harvest, or Apex groundkeepers from 1990s?

 

[pipestretcher]

Yes, I left the Volunteer's from the 2019 harvest. It was never my intention, it is a field that has been in no-till for 4 years. I intended to direct wheat into the OSR stuble but due to the autumn conditions this never happened so I have stuck with a 2nd osr crop.

 

[Acke]

The only input this crop has had is 100kgN, nothing else, not even seed!! It is by far the best looking crop on the farm. View attachment 884727View attachment 884728

Is it a Hybreed?
Nice looking OSR! But how to pay seedcompany royalties???

 

[willy]

Is it a Hybreed?
Nice looking OSR! But how to pay seedcompany royalties???

Just pay them on a ha basis.

 

[Brisel]

Organic manures do very little early on in my experience. Their effect seems to kick in by end of October with a growth spurt before winter.
they certainly do nothing for flea beetle

I agree - not much available N depending on what kind of manure it is. There’s anecdotal evidence that the manure’s smell can hide the brassica glucosinolate “smell” from the flying flea beetle adults.

 

[Farma Parma]

Ave crops here but considering i sowing them a bit later & they struggled thru winter & pegged Agchems back a bit am quite happy with them atm
wont be last years yields but cost me £50/ac less to grow the stuff i'll take that thanks

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

I agree - not much available N depending on what kind of manure it is. There’s anecdotal evidence that the manure’s smell can hide the brassica glucosinolate “smell” from the flying flea beetle adults.

That didn’t work last year

I think basically if the crop is challenged before 2 leaf stage by anything then either slugs or flea beetle will knacker the job.

any season when you have moisture, warmth and enough nitrogen then crop will outgrow any damage.
of course anything hidden in the stem lurks to f**k you over another day

 

[Brisel]

That didn’t work last year

I think basically if the crop is challenged before 2 leaf stage by anything then either slugs or flea beetle will knacker the job.

any season when you have moisture, warmth and enough nitrogen then crop will outgrow any damage.
of course anything hidden in the stem lurks to fudge you over another day

What did you do different last year? You've had some top yields in the past thanks to pig slurry

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

It seems I need a neonic to get it past the danger though
Or ideal growing conditions after sowing
My sure thing has turned into a gamble

 

[glasshouse]

Yes, I left the Volunteer's from the 2019 harvest. It was never my intention, it is a field that has been in no-till for 4 years. I intended to direct wheat into the OSR stuble but due to the autumn conditions this never happened so I have stuck with a 2nd osr crop.

Good decision

 

[Clive]

Yes, not expecting great things but it certainly looks OK.

doesn’t this just bust the myth of spending anything on this crop !

 

[glasshouse]

I have often seen ploughs turning in a perfect stand of volunteer osr in October and thought why are you doing that?
The ensueing wheat always had a battle on its hands against the massive slug population which could have been controlled by discing thr stubble, but the farmer would rather spend £££££ on slug pellets

 

[Steevo]

I have often seen ploughs turning in a perfect stand of volunteer osr in October and thought why are you doing that?
The ensueing wheat always had a battle on its hands against the massive slug population which could have been controlled by discing thr stubble, but the farmer would rather spend £££££ on slug pellets

Sometimes slug pellets are worth the cost as a preventative measure alone.

1. Before OSR
2. After OSR
3. Planting after late Oct
4. Spring crops

 

[glasshouse]

Sometimes slug pellets are worth the cost as a preventative measure alone.

1. Before OSR
2. After OSR
3. Planting after late Oct
4. Spring crops

Sometimes yes
Where cultural control has failed
Or not been tried