The field in my picture above had a small patch still flowering. 95% of the rest of the field is nearly beyond glyphosate so it all got desiccated. 1 acre in 67 is not worth jeopardising the rest of the field for.
How’s your OSR looking now
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The field in my picture above had a small patch still flowering. 95% of the rest of the field is nearly beyond glyphosate so it all got desiccated. 1 acre in 67 is not worth jeopardising the rest of the field for.
glasshouse
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Wtf is a base uk member?
Ivorbiggun
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Click Ivorbiggun's link. Mine used to say Arable Farmer but got changed because I'm a member of that organisation. It and I am interested in regenerative/conservation agriculture.
can I see your conclusion please
I haven't got one! I'll let @tw15 post pics of his beans. My only conclusion so far is to lengthen the rotation and reduce the exposure to any one break crop. Grow what suits your soil, markets and system. The days of winter wheat followed by spring barley followed by winter rape are over. Great first wheat crops (in a more normal year) need a break crop before them. Current thinking here is the two cereals then alternating the breaks between osr, spring oats and winter beans/spring peas.
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- Bedfordshire
My conclusion is continuous milling wheat. Can't see how anything else will stack up when BPS is gone. [ and it won't be replaced by anything we can make money from, only income foregone I bet]
- Location
- Darlington
Beans are even more hit and miss than OSR here but are definitely giving a good entry in to WW and if we can hit HC we have a good local market. Mine look as good as anything this year, contract stuff hasn't come away so well.
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- Berkshire
I’ve been doing similar and have a similar conclusion !!
We can’t grow good enough maize on thin chalk soil to generate a better margin than Linseed ( wouldn’t want to hammer my soil either ) peas fill me with dread with the amount of flint here and grass has a low demand / return unless we go into Lucerne or Timothy hay or hayledge for the many horses in the area which will require us buying all the machinery needed for that and all my suitable buildings are let or filled with wood chip
I’ve too much bg for grass seed or winter oats and like you roots are a non starter.
So that leaves linseed, S OSR, Beans or S oats, which a cheaply grown OSR crop will beat all of for profitability, fallow will loose money straight away unless I cull fixed costs, AB15 type options don’t look particularly attractive financially.
Poppies seem to be building a market again so could be an option but that’s about where we are so I’m making a few tweaks to the rotation and crop areas but will continue with a reduced area of OSR again....unless this years is so terrible it forces me to rethink !!
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- Berkshire
Beans haven’t liked the local conditions here this year, they’ve not podded very well, are short and the hot weather finished them off flowering early.
They are marginal on my chalk soils, as soon as we get onto clay cap yields normally increase but at least they inspire less dread than planting OSR !!
Looks okay here. Cheaply grown. Looks like a good margin. Will try again this year with farm saved seed, nothing to lose.
@snarling bee continuous milling wheat including spring wheat?
if costs are at the level I think we should be aiming for it does make everything profitable
@snarling bee continuous milling wheat including spring wheat?
if costs are at the level I think we should be aiming for it does make everything profitable
You have experience with spring rape. What do you think of peola as a possibility to keep peas standing? Peas do like the chalk but combines hate eating flints with flat crops
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- Berkshire
I have bad experience with spring rape...
It hates competition from what I've seen, can't see it being successful and there's a big disparity in harvest date.
Would oats work better??
Oats fall down by themselves! There's a thread on Peola that I will go and reread. I remember that the harvest date isn't that different @Andy Howard @Clive
- Location
- Darlington
We're virtually all clay. Beans are on one of the lightest fields this year which gave them the start they needed and there was enough clay/om to carry enough moisture until it rained. Time will tell how well they do.
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- Berkshire
Was thinking of Oat and Pea silage crops when I typed, not going to work taking it to harvest !!
Although the oats would have no N on them, the organic oats I cut stand pretty well.
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- Darlington
I think the trick is a ridiculously low seed rate and little N for oats.
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- Top of the Chilterns
Looked at my rape yesterday, but have literally no idea what to do with it. There are plants that would combine today, every seed black, right next to plants with every pod and seed bright green.
No swathers about. Agronomist unsure.
Spray it now then podstick as separate pass next week?
Podstick first, then spray?
Leave it to go off?
Set fire to it?
Flail it off in a fit of rage/disappointment at fields of shattered dreams?
Anyone else in same boat?
No swathers about. Agronomist unsure.
Spray it now then podstick as separate pass next week?
Podstick first, then spray?
Leave it to go off?
Set fire to it?
Flail it off in a fit of rage/disappointment at fields of shattered dreams?
Anyone else in same boat?
Yes, but not a big % of greens that won’t come to much anyway. Podstik 10 days ago and glyphosate now. Been picking fields off as weather allows but suits the uneven ripening. Trying not to think about the red seeds that will be in the sample but I’ve got to go with the majority and the weeds in the thin bits need killing to reduce seed return.