How are you going to drill winter /spring crops when it drys up

D14

Member
I`m having a year off, Waste of time spring crops on my clay.

Yep from our little group of 30 odd farmers theres 8 so far that have decided to have a year off. Generally clay soil which is a 50:50 chance whether spring crops do any good or not and due to the high seed prices they have decided to do nothing. Sheds are full of harvest 19 crops so the general consensus is sit on them until 2021 before selling.
 

4course

Member
Location
north yorks
had a walk today some oct ploughed land has dried on top would not sow without some action to help it dry a bit.Looking at lifting the top some how cant decide wether to go with spring tines ,light drag ,ph without back board or light discs, its a heavyish but hasnt stood water . so the question is which implement to try first any advice welcome.
 

Flat 10

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
had a walk today some oct ploughed land has dried on top would not sow without some action to help it dry a bit.Looking at lifting the top some how cant decide wether to go with spring tines ,light drag ,ph without back board or light discs, its a heavyish but hasnt stood water . so the question is which implement to try first any advice welcome.
KKK
 

Farma Parma

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
I`m having a year off, Waste of time spring crops on my clay.
You might be right thats the worst point.
I have land thats been Ploughed since late Sept that will be sown with a spring crop when its ready to go & its nowhere near that atm
Had been gonna chance my luck n sow some W Wheat still but ive binned that idea now, ground is too cold & still not dry enuff
all mine with combi & be worked infront with whatever it needs i have lots of options.
Patience is king with spring sowing tho.
Cant just leave it & sow nothing more so coz its been ploughed a while
If it breaks even thats all iam hoping for atm.
Realign 2021s harvest better if there is a full cropping program for this harvest
 

4course

Member
Location
north yorks
Problem with the kkk is they are a little light. Most of ours unless it’s very weathered I would just end up dragging a frame after a hundred metres
Drag or spring tines. KKK, markstig. No packer. I've a nice blench pigtail which is ace for ruffling up ploughed land......shame I only got one acre ploughed.
cheers ,40 year old ? pigtail cost £100 ish out of york a few years ago done a great job today followed when "napped" with combi cheap as chips and went in well 30 acre today since mid morning start just another 100 to go
 

snipe

Member
Location
west yorkshire
all our land was ploughed in early September and half worked down a week later when it had baked dry. Not been able to get near it till last Friday, managed to pull 120ac of it up with a pig tail tine cultivator and it looked well. Just needed a day or 2 to gray off. We had 18mm sat and sunday night, not forecasted. Walked it today and it a sh*ty mess.
 

4course

Member
Location
north yorks
all our land was ploughed in early September and half worked down a week later when it had baked dry. Not been able to get near it till last Friday, managed to pull 120ac of it up with a pig tail tine cultivator and it looked well. Just needed a day or 2 to gray off. We had 18mm sat and sunday night, not forecasted. Walked it today and it a sh*ty mess.
its the non forcasted rain that has caused the stress here so I stopped looking at them a while ago ,other than watching carol ,Problem is I can never remember what she said about the forecast .We also ploughed some though later in september then as it was drying followed our usual practice of rolling it , it rainedthe next day still not able to travel on it though getting drier, im hoping we can combi it so long as it doesnt hesh down in the next 3-4days
 
We had some land Sumo x1 in Sept just before the rain.... and it has been a soaking mess all winter
It’s fairly solid but we can travel in it
Decision was/is to go straight in with a combi drill
We could have :- sumo again or carrier or TripleK or pigtail tine or powerharrow first to allow some air in and dry out before drilling
BUT
We darent work some and leave it as unforcast rain is too risky and any more rain would totally feck it and another tractor over the land would just compact too much
So we’ve just combi drilled it
Seed covered and wheel marks eradicated
So we’ll see if it grows !!
 

4course

Member
Location
north yorks
Rain storms at weekend init.
here is the connundrum, some weve sown this week was ploughed dried out a fortnight ago heavy ish land made a reasonable seedbed lumps left in an ideal world could do with a light roll, another field that had been ploughed in oct has gone in as good as I would like ,amazingly would benefit from some moisture ,next one even though we hardly touched it is probably finner than needed and a few days of constant wet or more than a few ml would feck it and finally the last field we have to sow still has a few too many just not dry enough to travel bits that could almost go fri/sat but if it rains a lot the chances of getting back on for a week or more will be slim and end up being sb which is not ideal
 
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After last saturdays rain we are back to way too wet
in 2013 we dried up in fab an then March snow prevented drilling till early April
in 1988 all spring crops were drilled in March with dust flying
in 2001 a wet April and the minimum area was planted to achieve the 50% iacs requirement
what will 2020 throw at us we have the drilling capacity to get it all done where there is a will there will be a way
 

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